Serious Conference Realignment Discussion

[Champ967]

Still rumors of UT-Arlington & UALR being forced out of SBC, or politely asked to leave

Ok -- I can get on board with that. But then you still need at least one more football member.

Will that be some combo of Army/UConn/UMass? Or another FCS call up?

[Blue Dawg]

I kind of like Jax State and Sam Houston St as additions. They take football seriously at least. So does Liberty.

5 years after they join we will be going 1-2 against this group.

[sportdawg]

Ok -- I can get on board with that. But then you still need at least one more football member.

Will that be some combo of Army/UConn/UMass? Or another FCS call up?

UConn/UMass would be FB only if this happens.

[scribe62]

I have seen reports that the WAC will vote on adding McNeese and UIW today.

[Russdawg]

I kind of like Jax State and Sam Houston St as additions. They take football seriously at least. So does Liberty.

Jacksonville (Fort Payne-Gadsden Ala) and Liberty (Lynchburg
Va) will be nice fall trips around road games. By coincidence I drove by both campuses in October immediately before all this happened. I was impressed with both. Pumping some sunshine here!!!

[revf]

5 years after they join we will be going 1-2 against this group.

The C-USA is doing the right thing by adding football powerhouses. Those three have solid programs and are committed to growth. Something the C-USA should have done with previous expansions when they added "markets" not
"programs"

However, UNLESS our ADMINISTRATION gets their act together and comes up with a solid long term plan for advancing the University AND Athletics, we will be dead in the water again in 10 years time.

This board has already offered multiple suggestions:
On the university side -

1. We need a student athletic fee.
2. We need to grow our online degree offerings.
3. We need to promote the university more through advertising in big markets.
4. We need to offer in state tuition to neighboring states.

On the athletic side -

1. Get rid of boy blunder's ridiculous tailgating policies.
2. Tell Skippy it is time to change or be left behind. Average is no longer acceptable.
3. Hire for conference championships in every sport.
4. Continue to build out our facilities. Focus on all LTAC donors, not just the top 10%.

Seriously, most of this stuff is not rocket science, it is practical and pragmatic approaches to building an institution.

[chew4219]

Sam Houston St will decline. They attempted to pass a student athletic fee in order to fund the move to FBS football and it failed.

[Bill Brasky]

Assuming WKU and MTSU leave and reports of adding LU, SHSU, JSU and NMST (football only) are correct:

Football (7)
-Tech
-UTEP
-FIU
-SHSU
-JSU
-LU
*NMSU

Basketball (6)
-Tech
-UTEP
-FIU
-SHSU
-JSU
-LU

Baseball (5)
-Tech
-FIU
-SHSU
-JSU
-LU


Judy, we still have a problem here.

[Gladzilla]

How about the exit fees can only be used to update the media production equipment. So this way CUSA schools can produce the events. They could command more money this way when going to the table. Telling the networks all they would need to provide is announcers and a feed to desired channel.

[SouthernMiss3613]

Uconn, UMass and Army are still out there too. Plus whatever FCS teams that bring worth.

[Champ967]

Uconn, UMass and Army are still out there too. Plus whatever FCS teams that bring worth.

Wasnt Army kicked out of CUSA earlier this century for sucking at football? I cant imagine there's much love lost there

[sportdawg]

Assuming WKU and MTSU leave and reports of adding LU, SHSU, JSU and NMST (football only) are correct:

Going by rumors I've seen
NMSU all sports, UConn, UMass FB Only, UTA, UALR Olympic SPorts

Football (9)
-Tech
-UTEP
-FIU
-SHSU
-JSU
-LU
-NMSU
* UCONN
* UMass


Basketball (9)
-(2021 Net 71) Tech
-(143) UTEP
-(298) FIU
-(169) SHSU
-(291) JSU
-(85) LU
-(164) NMSU
-(242) UT-Arlington
-(221) UALR

Baseball (8)
-(2021 RPI 29) Tech
-(149) FIU
-(109) SHSU
-(137) JSU
-(35) LU
-(245) NMSU
-(141) UT-Arlington
- (172) UALR

[LEEDAWG]

I am not yet convinced the Exit Fees will be paid. I expect there will be significant legal efforts by the departing to avoid paying them to what will at best be the skeleton of a conference in tack.

I am not sure how this conference will survive.
Do the pros outweigh the cons of far-away independents joining c-usa (can't really be all caps C-USA anymore)?
Do the pros outweigh the cons of regional FCS schools moving to FBS/c-usa especially if they are succeeding at the FBS level?

Looking like c-usa will pretty much be starting over from scratch if able to at all. What gives the best upside for the conference... being stretched out from New Mexico to Massachusetts or going with southern FCS schools hoping they will strengthen?

I thought there were athletic program requirements for schools to be FBS. Are those requirements staying in place? It can't be a simple or inexpensive step for a school to move from FCS to FBS. I don't really understand how c-usa can pull programs from the FCS level like it is an easy answer to the problem.

[johnnylightnin]

I thought NMSU was football only (makes no sense…hope I’m wrong)

[sportdawg]

Jason Groves
@JPGroves
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NMSU Regents meeting on Friday. agenda item: Consideration of proposal for conference move