2024 Presidential Election

[dawg80]

Yea, but have we reached a point in the good ole USA that a felon is the best candidate we have for president? ��

Trump is NOT a felon and won't be. All these charges are fake, bogus. Biden has committed felonies, but his corrupt DOJ/FBI will not pursue charges. And, yes, Trump is by far the best candidate for POTUS. He's exactly what this country, the free world, needs desperately. Hopefully this time he'll have a Congress with balls who will stand with him.

I do like other GOP hopefuls, such as Vivek Ramaswamy, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis, and am okay with a few others. But, they can all run in 2028. We need Trump in 2024. And, I would hope (which springs eternal) even some less-than-enthusiastic-for-Trump voters will see how critical it is to send a message to The Swamp that their attempt to weaponize the DOJ against political opponents will not stand in this country. This, if for no other reason, is why EVERY true American patriot should vote for Trump. Otherwise, we'll see this happen again and again, and maybe next time it will be a candidate that YOU really like.

[FriscoDog]

Trump is NOT a felon and won't be. All these charges are fake, bogus. Biden has committed felonies, but his corrupt DOJ/FBI will not pursue charges. And, yes, Trump is by far the best candidate for POTUS. He's exactly what this country, the free world, needs desperately. Hopefully this time he'll have a Congress with balls who will stand with him.

I do like other GOP hopefuls, such as Vivek Ramaswamy, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis, and am okay with a few others. But, they can all run in 2028. We need Trump in 2024. And, I would hope (which springs eternal) even some less-than-enthusiastic-for-Trump voters will see how critical it is to send a message to The Swamp that their attempt to weaponize the DOJ against political opponents will not stand in this country. This, if for no other reason, is why EVERY true American patriot should vote for Trump. Otherwise, we'll see this happen again and again, and maybe next time it will be a candidate that YOU really like.

Sorry but Vivek wouldn't get my vote when he said that he doesn't eat meat and thinks that people should not consume meat for culinary pleasures..

[dawg80]

Sheeesh! A vegen!

This might seem trivial, even shallow, but Robert Kennedy, Jr's voice is ANNOYING! And I do think it affects his ability to mount a real run for office, any office. One thing is absolutely critical in being successful seeking public office, especially the POTUS, and that is being able to communicate. I won't be voting for Kennedy, Jr in any case as he's a demwit, but as an observation I do think he is handicapped because of his scratchy voice.

[dawg80]

There are no rules that say a convicted felon can’t run for President.

Just heard that is not any felon, but specifically the charge of "subversion" that would disqualify him, or anyone, from serving as POTUS. This is from a YouTuber, so I had better verify this.

[dawg80]

Just heard that is not any felon, but specifically the charge of "subversion" that would disqualify him, or anyone, from serving as POTUS. This is from a YouTuber, so I had better verify this.

Under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment regarding "insurrection" and Federal statute 18 of Code 2071 "possession of classified documents" convictions can disqualify someone holding the office of POTUS. But, the 14th Amendment thingy is unclear since it has NEVER been applied to the Office of President before and requires Congress to vote to disqualify someone. The Code 2071 can apply except as POTUS Trump had the authority to declassify documents. Given the kangaroo courts and the biased juries to come, Trump is assured of being convicted on the charges. Remains to be seen if a more sensible appeals court will overturn the convictions.

[Blue Dawg]

Sorry but Vivek wouldn't get my vote when he said that he doesn't eat meat and thinks that people should not consume meat for culinary pleasures..

Isn't Vivek a Hindu? I appreciate a lot of what he's willing to say. But I don't think he should be anywhere near our levers of power, such as they are.

[dawg80]

Isn't Vivek a Hindu? I appreciate a lot of what he's willing to say. But I don't think he should be anywhere near our levers of power, such as they are.

Looky here! I kind of agree with you about Ramaswamy. I like a lot of his ideas, like abolishing the Federal Dept. of Education, but he is dead wrong on world affairs, our foreign policy. He agrees with you on the world supporting Putin and handing him Ukraine. He also thinks the world should help a smooth/peaceful handover of Taiwan to the Chicoms. He is too naive and dangerous to be in the White House. So, I have marked him off my list.

I had no plans to watch the debate last night, but dern, I just like presidential politics (God help me!). Pence and Ramaswamy got the most airtime. But, I think the overall winners were:

1. Desantis
2. Pence
3. Ramaswamy

Vivek for no other reason than he got the exposure he needed. He was the most Googled candidate last night as people tried to learn something about him.

I think we'll see a slight change in the polls. i.e. Desantis will shave a few points off of Trump's lead, but that will fade away over the next few weeks. Pence came across as "presidential" he was calm, well-informed, and "mature." He should also see a small bounce in the poll numbers. The rest were just out there. No other candidate did a thing to drastically alter their poll numbers.

Of course, all those on the stage last night are doing no more than vying for second place. Trump has the GOP nomination locked up.

[Blue Dawg]

Looky here! I kind of agree with you about Ramaswamy. I like a lot of his ideas, like abolishing the Federal Dept. of Education, but he is dead wrong on world affairs, our foreign policy. He agrees with you on the world supporting Putin and handing him Ukraine. He also thinks the world should help a smooth/peaceful handover of Taiwan to the Chicoms. He is too naive and dangerous to be in the White House. So, I have marked him off my list.

I had no plans to watch the debate last night, but dern, I just like presidential politics (God help me!). Pence and Ramaswamy got the most airtime. But, I think the overall winners were:

1. Desantis
2. Pence
3. Ramaswamy

Vivek for no other reason than he got the exposure he needed. He was the most Googled candidate last night as people tried to learn something about him.

I think we'll see a slight change in the polls. i.e. Desantis will shave a few points off of Trump's lead, but that will fade away over the next few weeks. Pence came across as "presidential" he was calm, well-informed, and "mature." He should also see a small bounce in the poll numbers. The rest were just out there. No other candidate did a thing to drastically alter their poll numbers.

Of course, all those on the stage last night are doing no more than vying for second place. Trump has the GOP nomination locked up.

I heard someone say that Vivek is Trump's proxy (intentional or not). Since he's financially independent in a way the others aren't, he can say things that the voters actually want to hear.

I agree he's dangerous but I don't think naive. His view of America as a proposition nation melting pot affects the way he views border policy. I like a lot of the words he says but I don't think he can be trusted.

DeSantis continues to have no charisma. He should have waited until the next election, imo. He's got very little charisma, especially next to Vivek and of course Trump.

Did anyone watch Tucker + Trump?

[dawg80]

I have seen some short excerpts from the Tucker-Trump thingy, but I haven't watched the whole thing, and have no plans to. I can guess what was said about most of the issues.

[Blue Dawg]

I have seen some short excerpts from the Tucker-Trump thingy, but I haven't watched the whole thing, and have no plans to. I can guess what was said about most of the issues.

Trump's comments about Kamala were top-notch.

"The bus goes here, then the bus goes there, that's what busses do."

[PawDawg]

Pro tran Fox News is such a turd now...limiting access to the "debate" playback segments and no-no questions on things like this stupid gender crap.

[FriscoDog]

Pro tran Fox News is such a turd now...limiting access to the "debate" playback segments and no-no questions on things like this stupid gender crap.

Leading up to the debate, there was so much gnashing of teeth and screeching on how "hateful" and "bigoted" this debate was doing to be and all of the attacks against LGBTQ etc. and not a single question was asked about it. Now they are pissed off and upset that no questions were asked ROFL..

[dawg80]

Pro tran Fox News is such a turd now...limiting access to the "debate" playback segments and no-no questions on things like this stupid gender crap.

Leading up to the debate, there was so much gnashing of teeth and screeching on how "hateful" and "bigoted" this debate was doing to be and all of the attacks against LGBTQ etc. and not a single question was asked about it. Now they are pissed off and upset that no questions were asked ROFL..

I think that's because most people don't give a damn about trans/LGBTQ issues except when some group tries to force it on them and/or approach their kids with it. I won't support violence or discrimination against such folks, but I also will not tolerate their trying to force their lifestyle on me, and mine. I pray for them and hope they realize the errors of their way. God will welcome them back should they truly change their hearts.

So, when it comes to discussions of the issues, I would simply tell the trans/LGBTQ comnunity you are not that important to us and don't warrant any questions.

[techman05]

The Twitterverse was blowing up in my feed with folks accusing Ramaswamy of being against a bunch of stuff as a GOP candidate that he was in favor of before running. When pressed, no examples of specific “stuff”. One person even commented he was quoted to say he was in favor of a registry of the unvaxxed. No justification. Anyone have examples of his being wishy washy?

[dawg80]

The Twitterverse was blowing up in my feed with folks accusing Ramaswamy of being against a bunch of stuff as a GOP candidate that he was in favor of before running. When pressed, no examples of specific “stuff”. One person even commented he was quoted to say he was in favor of a registry of the unvaxxed. No justification. Anyone have examples of his being wishy washy?

Ramaswamy is squarely in the crosshairs of The Swamp now. Look for Trump-like false charges to surface, and all kinds of rumors, misinformation, etc. to try to discredit and silence him. You know we REGULAR folks, voters/taxpayers rail against career politicians expressing a desire to be able to support and vote for "outsiders," people who adhere to the original intent of public service/office holding and want only to serve one or two terms, do a good job for their charges (local, state, or federal) and return to their REAL jobs and lives. But there is a whole world that exists, we call it "The Swamp" or "The Deep State" or by some other name, and it is occupied/controlled by career bureaucrats and elected officials who derive enormous wealth and power from it and guard it viciously. So, one can become a member of this empire, but you have to sell your soul to the powers-that-be and be accepted by them. If you intend to buck the system and threaten their hold on power, they will come after you.

The Swamp (which I call the whole mess) has bought off the lamestream media, which is supposed to be "the fourth estate" and be a watchdog of the government, regardless of which party is in power. We all know that's not the case now. And this is how they control the mind-numb masses, feeding them false information. Yes, I know, everyone on this forum knows that...except for Goosey and a couple of others who still believe everything they are told by CNN/MSNBC.

So! Vivek Ramaswamy has to be extra careful. Hide nothing from his past. Own it, explain it, apologize for it, if necessary and do not even get a parking ticket or the beasts will turn it into a felony offense and come after him.