We will find out if our conference leadership is interested in running a business or doing charity.
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We will find out if our conference leadership is interested in running a business or doing charity.
What if they just leave and when CUSA sends them a bill for it they just refuse to pay? Is some judge going to go knock on their doors and demand a check be cut? He can demand all he wants; he can jump up and down and scream like a child in the store "give me a check!" But there's nothing anyone can do to make a school pay an exit fee. It's all on the honor system, and if you lack honor, it won't matter to you. None of this is too surprising really. UM, ODU, and USM are heading to the slums, where lowlifes hang out. Shouldn't expect them to act in some honorable manner.
Am I being too harsh?
I think they are skipping a year early because they know this year's distribution (which is revenue share withheld) WILL NOT cover their exit fee and the remainder will end up in court and they think that within 24 months the SBC will split east & west (with possible additions) and the AAC will have a few more departures (and additions) which will kill CUSA and their remaining debt...Originally Posted by dawg80
What if they just leave and when CUSA sends them a bill for it they just refuse to pay? Is some judge going to go knock on their doors and demand a check be cut? He can demand all he wants; he can jump up and down and scream like a child in the store "give me a check!" But there's nothing anyone can do to make a school pay an exit fee. It's all on the honor system, and if you lack honor, it won't matter to you. None of this is too surprising really. UM, ODU, and USM are heading to the slums, where lowlifes hang out. Shouldn't expect them to act in some honorable manner.
Am I being too harsh?
But that's just a guess
''Don't be a bad dagh..."
But by openly violating the conference bylaws, they now will owe damages on top of the loss of revenue sharing.
The NCAA makes distributions in many areas based on the number of members and number of scholarships awarded by members. Any NCAA revenue shortfall for next year has to be paid by those departing members. If they stuck around as the bylaws obligate them to do, those schools would not owe that money. They just wouldn't get their share of the revenue.
Since they have now announced plans to violate the bylaws, without a monetary guarantee they should not be hosting or participating in any conference championship events.
@underdogdynasty: On the same day that Conference USA sent out the 2022 football schedule to members, Southern Miss, Old Dominion and Marshall announce their plans to leave C-USA in 2022.
Totally agree
''Don't be a bad dagh..."
A Conference with Guts!
Horizon League bans UIC from conference tournaments
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...oi4-story.html
@ChrisVannini:
The Sun Belt declined comment on today’s news.
A source said the league wasn’t involved. It’s got a schedule plan to include them (among many), but waiting for the schools to get out of their C-USA obligations. Plan is SBC schedule out on March 1.
Apparently it's not in the bylaws to ban members from participating in tournament after announcing their departure.
I think that's related. Probably prompted the huffy releases.
I don't like this.
The students didn't make these choices. I guess it's also true that local hotels and restaurants didn't either, but I think it's different to not let them host than to not even let them play. I'm very much in favor of the former and against the later.
USM should not host the baseball tourney.
But members can be suspended or expelled if they violate the bylaws. And a suspended or expelled member could be prevented from participating.
From the conference bylaws in the latest C-USA Handbook that I have (2015-2016):
3.06 Withdrawal From Conference.
No member of the Conference may withdraw from the Conference except pursuant to and as allowed by this Section 3.06. No member may withdraw from the Conference without providing the Conference prior written notice. Any and all withdrawals from the Conference shall be effective on July 1 of the year specified in the notice of withdrawal; provided, however, that the withdrawing member must afford the Conference notice at least fourteen months prior to the effective date of the withdrawal (i.e. no later than May 1 of the prior year). However, if a Member makes statements or takes actions that evidence intent of such Member to withdraw from the Conference either currently or in the future, such actions will be determined as notice of withdrawal by a three-fourths (3/4) vote of the remaining Members of the Board of Directors. In the event that a member attempts to leave the Conference without fully complying with the notice of withdrawal requirements set forth above, the Conference shall be entitled to equitable relief without having to prove actual injury, irreparable or otherwise, including, but not limited to, an injunction requiring the member to comply fully with the notice of withdrawal requirements set forth above, to fulfill all of its obligations as a Conference member, and to remain in the Conference until the earliest permissible date upon which the member could have, under the circumstances, withdrawn with full and proper prior notice as required above. The members agree that any attempted withdrawal of a member without full compliance with the prior notice requirements set forth above would cause a disruption in the scheduling of competitions among the members for which there is no adequate remedy at law which would cause harm that would not in any respect be compensated by payment of a withdrawal fee, and for which, therefore, equitable relief is appropriate.
The withdrawing member shall be responsible for the amount of any and all assessments or debts that the member owes to the Conference as of the effective date of the withdrawal. From the date of notice of withdrawal, the withdrawing member shall have no rights to receive distribution of Conference revenues of any nature (i.e. the Conference shall be entitled to retain distribution for two fiscal years) and shall continue to be obligated to pay Conference expenses, assessments, or debts. Further, the term of office of any Board Member representing a Withdrawing Member shall automatically expire and such Chief Executive Officer shall no longer be a Board Member of the Conference effective as of the notice date or determination of notice to withdraw and such Withdrawing Member shall not be entitled to have a representative on the Board of Directors thereafter. During the period thereafter the number of Board Members shall automatically be reduced by the number of Withdrawing Members; and the Withdrawing Member(s) shall not be permitted to attend any meeting of, vote on any matter before, receive notice of any meeting of, or receive copies of materials distributed to the Board of Directors; the Conference shall however, inform the Chief Executive Officer of a Withdrawing Member about matters (as determined by the Commissioner in his sole discretion) that may materially impact the Withdrawing Member during the period prior to the effective date of the withdrawal in a manner disproportionate to the Withdrawing Member and shall provide the Chief Executive Officer of the Withdrawing Member with a reasonable opportunity for discussion with the Board of Directors on such issues as requested Each of the Members agrees that withdrawal of a member from the Conference would cause damage and financial hardship to the Conference and its continuing members, that the financial consequences to the Conference and its continuing members of such withdrawal cannot be measured or estimated with certainty at this time, and that the withholding of distributions pursuant to the preceding paragraph is a reasonable method of compensating the Conference and the continuing members for such damage and financial hardship and is not and shall not be construed as a penalty.
3.07 Suspension and Expulsion.
A member shall be subject to suspension or expulsion for cause by the Board of Directors (provided, however, that the Director representing the withdrawing member may not participate or vote in connection with any such decision) pursuant to Section 5.02(c)(iii) if the member:
(a) Fails to meet its financial obligations to the Conference;
(b) Violates any of the provisions of these Bylaws or the rules and regulations of the Conference (collectively referred to as "Conference Legislation") or the NCAA; or,
(c) Engages in a course of conduct significantly contrary to the best interests or reputation of the Conference and the remaining members of the Conference as determined by the Board of Directors.
A member suspended or expelled for cause shall not be entitled to receive a return of any initiation fee or subsequent contributions paid by it to the Conference, nor shall it (a) be relieved of any financial obligations to the Conference arising prior to such suspension or expulsion, including, without limitation, assessments made pursuant to Section 3.04; or, (b) be entitled to distributions, if any, of Conference income, whether pursuant to Section 5.02(b)(xii) or otherwise, for the fiscal year in which suspension or withdrawal occurs or for any subsequent fiscal years. The suspension or expulsion of a member for cause shall not be deemed a waiver by the Conference or other Conference members of any claims it or they may have against the member for losses or damages incurred as a result of the conduct giving rise to such suspension or expulsion.
Hold them all to the fullest extent of what the rules say, no exceptions. I don’t care one bit about feelings or future relationships. Being kicked around and treated poorly doesn’t mean you should bend over even further.
The way I see it, is their feelings and future relationship really don’t matter. If we have hired the right people then when the future comes we should be well off enough to not need them, and if we aren’t at that point we are probably F@%ked.
I don’t care about whatever piddling CUSA exit fee, revenue sharing there would be. Pull the tournaments from them and if they want to slug it out in court let em.
That depends on us making good hires and decisions so……….
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