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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    This is exactly, though, what I suspect the NCAA divisional committees are discussing now in terms of what the requirements are for D1.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    [QUOTE=FriscoDawg;1831338]Attendance only matters for NCAA classification in football. Here are the current guidelines:

    20.9.9.3 Football-Attendance Requirements. [FBS] Once every two years on a rolling basis, the institution shall average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football games. (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/04, 4/28/05 effective 8/

    20.9.9.3.1 Counting Attendance. [FBS]

    20.9.9.3.1.1 Actual Attendance. [FBS] For purposes of computing actual attendance figures, an individual may be counted if any one of the following conditions applies: (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/04, 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05)
    (a) Attendees are issued tickets that are collected on admission to the game and retained;
    (b) Attendees enter through and are counted by a turnstile that is monitored by a representative of the department of athletics who verifies in writing the accuracy of the count on a per-game basis; or
    (c) Attendees enter through a gate at which a representative of the department of athletics counts them individually with a manual counter, and the representative provides a written statement verifying the accuracy of the count on a per-game basis.

    20.9.9.3.1.2 Paid Attendance. [FBS] For purposes of computing paid attendance figures, tickets must be sold for at least one-third of the highest regular established ticket price as established prior to the season, regardless of whether they are used for admission. Tickets sold at less than one-third of the highest regular established price may be counted as paid attendance only if they are used for admission. Student attendance may be counted as paid attendance if the student pays at least one-third of the highest regular established ticket price or, if the student actually attends the game and any one of the following conditions applies: (Adopted: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05)
    (a) The student paid an athletics fee;
    (b) The student paid an institutional fee of which a certain portion was allocated to the department of intercollegiate athletics; or
    (c) The student paid no athletics fee, but the institution allocated to the department of intercollegiate athletics a certain portion of tuition income or general operating funds as the equivalent of a student athletics fee.

    20.9.9.3.1.2.1 Student Attendance. [FBS] Student attendance must be verified through one of the following methods: (Adopted: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05)
    (a) Such students are issued tickets that are collected on admission to the game and retained;
    (b) Such students enter through and are counted by a turnstile (which is not used by others in attendance) that is monitored by a representative of the department of athletics who verifies in writing the accuracy of the count on a per-game basis; or
    (c) Such students enter through a gate (that is not used by others in attendance) at which a representative of the department of athletics counts them individually with a manual counter, and the representative provides a written statement verifying the accuracy of the count on a per-game basis.

    20.9.9.3.1.2.1.1 Noncounted Students. [FBS] Student-athletes and cheerleaders scheduled by the institution to be at the game and students performing services at the stadium (e.g., concessionaires, ticket takers, parking-lot attendants, ushers, grounds keepers) shall not be counted toward meeting the attendance requirements. (Adopted: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05)

    20.9.9.3.1.2.2 Exchange of Tickets With Opponent. [FBS] For an institution to meet the Football Bowl Subdivision attendance requirements, tickets for a football contest obtained by an institution through an exchange agreement or a purchase agreement with another institution may be used only if sold for at least one-third of the highest regular established ticket price and are used to attend the game. (Adopted: 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05, Revised: 12/15/06)

    20.9.9.3.2 Certified Audit. [FBS] In meeting the football-attendance requirements of the Football Bowl Subdivision, an institution must undertake an annual certified audit verifying its football attendance. The audited football-attendance figures must be received in the NCAA national office not later than the February 15 following the completion of the football season, and NCAA national office staff shall verify compliance with all the Football Bowl Subdivision attendance requirements. The certified audit and materials (including the ticket manifest) must be available for inspection for a four-year period. (Revised: 10/17/05, 12/15/06)[/QUOTE

    How do we comply with this "annual certified audit" requirement when the auditor performing ours says it cant be done because we dont keep official attendance records? Just curious, anyone have any idea.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Idiots from Learfield, Aramark, and EllAye Tech Foundation are running the show. After baseball fails this year l will drop my LTAC donation and never EVER consider attending football or MBB again.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Idiots from Learfield, Aramark, and EllAye Tech Foundation are running the show. After baseball fails this year l will drop my LTAC donation and never EVER consider attending football or MBB again.

    No-no-no. You will feel better tomorrow.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Idiots from Learfield, Aramark, and EllAye Tech Foundation are running the show. After baseball fails this year l will drop my LTAC donation and never EVER consider attending football or MBB again.
    Come on now. New coaches in Football and MBB. Things are going to improve exponentially this year and next.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Come on now. New coaches in Football and MBB. Things are going to improve exponentially this year and next.
    The game day experience will continue to suck worse than ever before

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Worse, why do you think so? What can be improved besides winning at high level that will generate interest?

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    What can be done to improve the game day experience for kids? Playground, area they can throw the ball and run when they get bored? Let them play on the field at halftime. If you can get kids interested, parents and grandparents will come. Same with college students, what is the draw for them?

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    From the the rendering, it is a definite yes.

    As far as adding additional seating in the future and with the north and south endzone occupied, I think demolishing the east side and rebuild would be the best way to go.



    I still hate the design. The stadium needs to be bowled in. It doesn't have to be the whole stadium, but the lower half of the stadium should continue around the stadium and then they can plop that building above that. Move the videoboards back behind the bowled in section. Keeping a two sided stadium looks small time and will permanently hinder the chances of improving the atmosphere at games IMO.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Worse, why do you think so? What can be improved besides winning at high level that will generate interest?
    Football is taking tailgating away and forcing us to do it in an asphalt parking lot. It was working well and growing before Guice and McClelland destroyed it.

    MBB and our 30 year run of chokes is a joke. With the transfer portal now we stand zero chance of ever being relevent in either football or MBB.

    Baseball is a tater, but we have Aramark and our leaders refusing to offer decent service. It's HORRIBLE! We are paying too much for HORRIBLE! We have people staying home because they don't know tickets are available to the games. Total mismanagement. I have not seen our AD at a game in almost two months. I'm sure he's up in the suites somewhere in the AC trying to figure out how they can screw things up even more.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Our AD is nothing but an empty suit. Guice is a total f--k-up, both in athletics and academics.

    But, in the bigger picture, it doesn't really matter anyway. The whole university system is nothing but a bunch of dinosaurs, already extinct but they just don't know it yet. All this BS with hiring 7 basketball coaches and chit like that is only speeding the demise of universities. Already many, many major companies (employers) have dropped the 4-year degree requirement for employment in favor of specific, technical training. Yeah, sure, the old dinosaurs won't just go quietly into the night and some form of them will hang on...those willing to make the needed changes...but overall, universities as we have known them have outlived their usefulness.

    Most of us here, who post here, will not live to see the complete disappearance of universities, our grandkids will, so just enjoy it for what it is while you can.

    Go Dawgs!

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    What can be done to improve the game day experience for kids? Playground, area they can throw the ball and run when they get bored? Let them play on the field at halftime. If you can get kids interested, parents and grandparents will come. Same with college students, what is the draw for them?
    They already play on the field after the game.

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech52 View Post
    They already play on the field after the game.
    BUT, not since COVID!!

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by 70TECHGRAD View Post
    BUT, not since COVID!!
    They are allowed to run the bases on Sunday after the game

    Operations are horrible

    Get there 15 minutes before first pitch - no peanuts in 3rd base concession stand and no relish or onions in condiments kiosk either

    We can’t take care of the little things, let alone the things that really matter

    We go cheap on everything and charge Cadillac prices for mediocre service
    ''Don't be a bad dagh..."

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    Re: Remaining '89 bleachers at Joe Aillet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    They are allowed to run the bases on Sunday after the game

    Operations are horrible

    Get there 15 minutes before first pitch - no peanuts in 3rd base concession stand and no relish or onions in condiments kiosk either

    We can’t take care of the little things, let alone the things that really matter

    We go cheap on everything and charge Cadillac prices for mediocre service
    Our AD showed up to wipe seats off again after the rain.

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