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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Done deal. USC/UCLA gawn-peekawn. Rumors are heating up that Oregon and Washington have now reached out to the B1G this evening.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    I’m so bored by this. Going after money. Hope Saudi Arabia does not have anything in the till.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    This only confirms what members of this board have said for nearly 2 decades.

    There will be a few “power conferences” and they will have their own rules and regulations. They will control the money, the scheduling, TV contracts, championship, etc.

    The NCAA officially died today with this news.

    Houston, Cincinnati, UCF, BYU, Baylor, Kansas State, West Virginia, Rutgers, Washington State, Iowa State - those schools will have some problems. Either their standard of living is about to decline or their dreams of being in a power conference just evaporated.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    I could see the Pac 12 looking at Oklahoma State, Kansas, and Texas Tech. The only MWC schools the Pac 12 would look at are probably Air Force and Colorado State. Boise State is a non-starter academically for the Pac 12. San Diego State might have a chance, but not much better than Boise.
    This is what I am thinking too, but would replace Texas Tech with Baylor

    1. Oklahoma State - Tons of money and pretty good at all the sports.

    2. Kansas - Good at Basketball, name recognition and a good academic school.

    3. Baylor has pretty much everything. Money, good at all the sports and great academics. Fit perfectly into the PAC-12 besides the religion part.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom View Post
    It sure looks like BYU panicked when it moved to the Big 12. The offer to the Pac10 would have been on the President's desk by now, might be anyway, who knows?
    They probably looked at it like Utah would never let them get in.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    So if USC, UCLA to B1G and Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado to B12, what the next step for Pac#.

    The most plausible scenario:


    Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington head to the Big 10 with USC and UCLA.

    Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado head to the Big 12.

    Oregon State and Washington State end up in the MWC.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    I don’t think Baylor will be picked up by anyone. Too much baggage and too much religion.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

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    Sources: Oregon and Washington have been told by @bigten that it is standing pat for now. Waiting on a decision by Notre Dame.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    I don’t think Baylor will be picked up by anyone. Too much baggage and too much religion.
    I don’t know Brigham Young founded the University of Utah…Baylor’s just barely religious.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post

    The most plausible scenario:


    Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington head to the Big 10 with USC and UCLA.

    Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado head to the Big 12.

    Oregon State and Washington State end up in the MWC.
    After listening to Jon Wilner and Matt Brown this morning on SiriusXM - the 2 reporters who have lived realignment for the past 11 months - I'm beginning to rethink this.

    Even if the Pac 12 were to eventually lose USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Cal, and Stanford, the money may not be any better in the Big 12 for the 6 remaining Pac 12 members. A depleted Pac 12 that adds from the MWC may still pull in what the Big 12 pulls in in media money.

    That would likely keep the Four Corner schools from bolting. As Brown put it "the Pac 12 may look different with Fresno State in it, but it will still survive." The pause the Big 10 is taking to wait on Notre Dame almost ensures the fact the Pac 12 will expand in the coming weeks and be around for the long-term. As Brown put it "it's really hard to kill off a conference."

    In any case, both leagues - Pac 12 and Big 12 - are negotiating their new deals. They'll have an idea as to where they stand in the coming weeks and months. A few things to keep an eye on:

    -Does ESPN completely low-ball the Pac 12 and Big 12 in an effort to exit those leagues altogether?

    -Does Fox make an over-the-top offer to the Big 10 for exclusive rights that keeps CBS as well as Apple and Amazon out of the competition at any level? The new package is expected to pay over $100 million per year, per school in media money.

    -If ESPN focuses almost entirely on the SEC and ACC, what does the TV package with the Pac 12 and Big 12 look like? Could each league find value in a combo CBS/Fox/Apple/Amazon deal?

    -If 3 players in CBS, Apple and Amazon are frozen out of the Big 2 and all looking for content, would it lead the Pac 12 and Big 12 to expand beyond 12 schools? That would impact the G5 in a major way.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Regarding the ACC's Grant of Rights.

    There was a big story this week about it in The Athletic. Could ACC schools like Florida State, Clemson, and Miami get out of their GOR deals? Possibly (according to the article).

    But consider the fact Texas and Oklahoma couldn't find a way out of their Big 12 GOR deals.

    The best example I've heard was this: What if North Carolina were to join the Big 10 tomorrow. They would receive a $100 million check each summer from the Big 10 in their share of media money. They would then have to sign over that $100 million check to the ACC each year through June 30, 2036.

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Geez, we are just playing with Monopoly money now anyway. What’s a few hundred million here and there?

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    https://twitter.com/ksl5tv/status/15..._xKhoEv3WlMF3g
    Utah, Arizona, Arizona State & Colorado meeting with B12

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    Re: USC, UCLA to Big 10?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post

    The most plausible scenario:


    Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington head to the Big 10 with USC and UCLA.

    Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado head to the Big 12.

    Oregon State and Washington State end up in the MWC.
    Is there some rule about dissolving the conference with so few members? I see the PAC down to two members still having the power to add members just like CUSA getting down to 5. The PAC has the bowl tie ins, media deal and NCAA credits still for the next few years don't they? I'm sure the two remaining schools could just add teams from the MWC and possibly AAC how they seem fit.

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