Pete Thamel
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Sources: Kennesaw State has emerged as the favorite to become Conference USA’s tenth member. That addition is expected in the near future for Kennesaw to join effective 2024.
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10th Member: Kennesaw State
Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
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Sources: Kennesaw State has emerged as the favorite to become Conference USA’s tenth member. That addition is expected in the near future for Kennesaw to join effective 2024.
2022 Baseball RPI 56
2022 MBB NET 224
2022 WBB NET 275
Kennesaw State, interesting another ASUN team.
I am convinced that you can't make 8 kicks to the nuts feel better with a 9th kick to the nuts.
It's stupid to expand beyond the minimum until you have to.
It would be 100% stupidity to go beyond 10 permanent members.Originally Posted by inudesu
I am convinced that you can't make 8 kicks to the nuts feel better with a 9th kick to the nuts.
It's stupid to expand beyond the minimum until you have to.
The justification for this move is at least two-fold:
1) Insurance against a combined MT-WKU defection.
2) Makes scheduling easier with an even number of permanent members.
9 >>> 12 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 > 10
I hate the idea of a 10 team conference. You'd make it work if it was a better set of 10 teams, or if you just got left with 10 and there weren't good options to go to 12 (like the Big 12 has done for some time now).
Basketball travel costs will go up. While basketball tournament payouts per school will go down. Lovely.
Oh Yes, we definitely want to make things EASY for our lazy azz administrators and AD's.
Seriously though, why in the hell should we care about that? I could personally schedule a team better --and certainly more recognizable-- than Kennesaw State, EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS!! What a STUPID reason to add an unknown commodity like Kennesaw State.
I've got a better idea. Just come to me first, and I'll personally schedule an OOC opponent better than Kennesaw St . Geezz......
It's like 500+ miles from Ruston to KSU. How many Div. I schools do you think there are within a 500 mile radius? Even if you leave out the P5 schools who would never deign to set foot in Ruston, it's got to be dozens, right? And for UTEP/NMSU and SHSU that has to be quite a bit worse. It's hard for us to do for various reasons, but I'd rather have 9 members and take our chances in scheduling UTA/UALR/ULL/ULM/SFA/NWST/UNT/UTSA/Rice/SMU/ASU/USA/UAB/USM/Whomever than take KSU as a "bird in the hand" just for "easier" basketball scheduling.Oh Yes, we definitely want to make things EASY for our lazy azz administrators and AD's.
Seriously though, why in the hell should we care about that? I could personally schedule a team better --and certainly more recognizable-- than Kennessaw State, EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS!! What a STUPID reason to add an unknown commodity like Kennesaw State.
I hate this so much. So hoping the Georgia board of regents or whoever it is that needs to sign off shuts it down. Interest rates are too high to build a new stadium, sorry guys, ask again in a few years.
Exactly. These people leading CUSA don't think about branding at all. That's how we ended up in this situation in the first place. They don't give one shit about protecting the brand. Just stick a mirror under the latest candidate's nose, and if it fogs up, send 'em a CUSA invite.
You missed the point completely. Easier has nothing to do with the actual scheduling process. The conference office has to do its job whether there are 8 members or 20.Oh Yes, we definitely want to make things EASY for our lazy azz administrators and AD's.
Seriously though, why in the hell should we care about that? I could personally schedule a team better --and certainly more recognizable-- than Kennesaw State, EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS!! What a STUPID reason to add an unknown commodity like Kennesaw State.
I've got a better idea. Just come to me first, and I'll personally schedule an OOC opponent better than Kennesaw St . Geezz......
With 10 members playing an 18-game basketball schedule, you have travel partners. Teams make 4 2-game road trips with shorter travel between games on a trip and just one single game road trip to the travel partner. Having just 5 conference road trips would reduce travel expenses. And assuming a basic Thursday-Saturday schedule, athletes would miss 12-15 class days for road conference games.
With 9 members playing a 16-game conference schedule, teams have to schedule two extra non-conference games. Scheduling basketball non-conference has been hard enough with 18 conference games. Travel could not be done using travel partners, and that would likely mean game weeks would vary between Wednesday-Saturday, Thursday-Saturday, Saturday-Monday, or Thursday-Monday. Teams would have to make 5 or 6 conference road trips under this plan, so there would be little if any savings to play two fewer conference games and might even increase costs for some schools. Class days missed would also be similar to play one fewer conference road game. And if at least one of those extra non-conference games is a road game, that adds to travel expense and missed class days.
So, according to you, CUSA should just add Kennesaw St for "convenience" scheduling purposes? Never mind whether they actually deserve an invite or not. SCHEDULING IS JUST TOO HARD, according to you?
No, it looks like I had the point nailed perfectly. It's all about making the scheduling easier. Why you would open your post with the stupid statement "you missed the point completely", is truly astounding.
You could still schedule around travel partners that make sense (you can send two teams to NMSU/UTEP who alternate Thu-Sat). You don't have anyone to use for FIU anyway that really helps things. So it isn't a strict travel partners top to bottom schedule, but you use them where it makes sense. Traveling to a 9th away game is going to cost more than traveling to 8 away games no matter what (depending on how you handle the OOC games that you use to replace those 2 games).
If you play @ UTA/UALR/UNT/SFA instead of @ KSU in a given year, you're better off. The home game (so long as it's Div I and not another Jarvis Christian or whatever) is a wash. KSU isn't drawing any interest, helping NET, or bringing fans anyway. I guess the trick for us is finding anyone to play at home that isn't forced to Ruston by sharing a conference. But as HD says, we're paying people to figure that out.
Are we still too good for the Sunbelt?
The Belch has grown too large and unwieldy and very soon the eastern schools, led by Marshall and JMU, and then joined by Appy State Coastal Car, will start clamoring to secede and form a strictly eastern time zone league. The implosion is coming.
Trust me, that's not going to happen. There would be absolutely nothing to gain by doing that. They'd almost certainly lose money with a lesser TV deal, they wouldn't have bowl tie-in's, they wouldn't save on travel costs because Sun Belt travel is already great, and there wouldn't be enough quality teams to add to make it a 10 team conference.
The only way the current Sun Belt gets broken up is if the AAC raids again, but even then I highly doubt any SBC teams would make the jump. Most SBC schools were not interested during the last round of realignment, so why would they be interested this time? In the AAC the money is about equal, the travel is significantly worse, and after UCF, UH, and Cinci leave next year the SBC will very likely be the best G5 conference.
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