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    McNeil is back this week

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    Cumbie: QB Parker McNeil is back this week. Lyddy has played in three games, and four is the most you can play in and keep your redshirt. If Parker can't go, then we have no choice, but we want to make the best decision for the team and Landry going forward.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    We're down to just two QBs, eh. Hope McNeil can finish out the season.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Under the circumstances I’m good with McNeil. He’s a capable guy as long as we go with a quick release passing attack. In fact if push comes to shove I’d use the Southern Miss scheme of no QB before wasting a year of Lyddy’s time in what’s likely going to be a seriously bad losing season. If it worked for USM why wouldn’t it work for Tech? Don’t answer that, haha. I know we’re not playing a Holtz team.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Don't blow a redshirt for a losing season...unless you have to.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    It's a fine line, I think.

    I could argue it either way, but without knowing the player personally (and a million other things) I'm really not sure if the trade-off of getting more experience/burning the redshirt out-weighs the risks of getting him beat up (physically or mentally - learning bad habits, etc) and that extra year of eligibility. He doesn't exactly have the frame to be a risk to go pro early, but in this transfer portal era you still might not benefit from the extra year anyway.

    I think our offensive system does value lots of reps (half of the Air Raid philosophy is about efficient practices) so that'd be an argument for letting him play out this season as prep for next season. But only if you aren't going to get him crushed every week into becoming gunshy.

    I also wonder about what we've got way down the bench. Turner was the back-up this last week right? Who else is there? Ratliff? Brister?

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    I am fine with McNeil, but I am not sure that a red shirt matters anymore in today's world of easy transfers. If someone is really good, we may not have him but one or two years regardless. Saying that, if McNeil can get a a couple more wins (hopefully), we need to use him.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    We're down to just two QBs, eh. Hope McNeil can finish out the season.
    Jack Turner is #3.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    The other consideration is that we have 2 QBs committed for next year's class. I think we need at least them and, maybe, grab a transfer too. I could see letting Lyddy finish the season and redshirting the guys we get this spring.
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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Give Liddy the chance. See what you have. No reason to save a redshirt year for a player that might leave if Cumbie recruits a a better QB. Many of todays players don’t like competition.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    Give Liddy the chance. See what you have. No reason to save a redshirt year for a player that might leave if Cumbie recruits a a better QB. Many of todays players don’t like competition.
    I agree. Lyddy needs to finish out the year. That way we at least have one QB on roster with some experience.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Knew it was a mistake to play Lyddy in garbage time against SFA. You don't throw away one game out of four to play like that in game 2 of the season. You save that for midseason or later.

    Lyddy should play one more game and only one more game if McNeil is able to go at 90-100% unless he and the coaches have a different understanding. Three extra games to play aren't worth another possible full season.

    If McNeil isn't at 90% then there is no decision to make.

    If Cumbie had played this right, Lyddy would still have two games left right now when they are really needed.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    Knew it was a mistake to play Lyddy in garbage time against SFA. You don't throw away one game out of four to play like that in game 2 of the season. You save that for midseason or later.

    Lyddy should play one more game and only one more game if McNeil is able to go at 90-100% unless he and the coaches have a different understanding. Three extra games to play aren't worth another possible full season.

    If McNeil isn't at 90% then there is no decision to make.

    If Cumbie had played this right, Lyddy would still have two games left right now when they are really needed.
    The biggest reveal in what you said in wasting some of Lyddy’s play time is yet another one of Cumbie’s blunders this year. I can’t say game by game what they all were, but I know there have been some in every game. To me unfortunately it’s becoming his trademark like Holtz’s was never playing aggressively to win outright. Tech doesn’t have talent or even potential to waste and we can include Lyddy in that.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    The biggest reveal in what you said in wasting some of Lyddy’s play time is yet another one of Cumbie’s blunders this year. I can’t say game by game what they all were, but I know there have been some in every game. To me unfortunately it’s becoming his trademark like Holtz’s was never playing aggressively to win outright. Tech doesn’t have talent or even potential to waste and we can include Lyddy in that.
    What about all these times you wanted Lyddy to play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    At this point with this team don’t start a QB who isn’t 100% healthy. We’re already handicapped enough with the other various shortcomings of this team. I’d go with Lyddy simply to let him get some game experience and some wins under his belt. We need him to develop his winning ways so it’ll spread throughout the team and energize some of the other units.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    I have a feeling that Cumbie doesn’t really want to have to play Lyddy. That he’d rather limp through this season than essentially waste one of his very valuable years on a lost cost.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg View Post
    According to Cumbie on the radio today it won’t be Lyddy who brings any fans back since he’s saying right now that he’s sticking with McNeil.

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Any chance Lyddy and his Dad are part of the decision?
    HCSH cumulative point differential by quarter:

    231 522 654 -54

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    Re: McNeil is back this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dowty View Post
    What about all these times you wanted Lyddy to play?
    You should double check your reading and the background to it. Evidently your comprehension is somewhat skewed. The one comment I made relevant to Lyddy getting “my” vote to play was to cover for a hurt QB.

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