QB Comparison Numbers

[Dwayne From Minden]

Here is a breakdown of Tim's career numbers - broken down by year and BCS vs Non-BCS -

COMP ATT YDS TDs INTs Comp % Yds/Att Yds/Comp
Yr 1997
Arkansas 36 63 393 1 2 57.14% 6.24 10.92
California 24 51 342 3 - 47.06% 6.71 14.25
Auburn 30 55 274 2 2 54.55% 4.98 9.13
Alabama 29 48 361 3 - 60.42% 7.52 12.45
97-BCS 119 217 1,370 9 4 54.84% 6.31 11.51

Bowling Green 22 36 320 3 - 61.11% 8.89 14.55
Northeast 20 31 269 2 1 64.52% 8.68 13.45
Central Mich 31 42 510 6 1 73.81% 12.14 16.45
Arkansas St 24 34 393 4 - 70.59% 11.56 16.38
Boise St 29 43 335 2 2 67.44% 7.79 11.55
UAB 29 44 332 3 3 65.91% 7.55 11.45
USL 16 30 364 5 - 53.33% 12.13 22.75
97-NBCS 171 260 2,523 25 7 65.77% 9.70 14.75
97-TOTALS 290 477 3,893 34 11 60.80% 8.16 13.42

Yr 1998
Nebraska 46 68 590 4 1 67.65% 8.68 12.83
Texas A&M 30 47 239 - 2 63.83% 5.09 7.97
Auburn 27 46 227 1 4 58.70% 4.93 8.41
98-BCS 103 161 1,056 5 7 63.98% 6.56 10.25

UCF 43 64 524 - - 67.19% 8.19 12.19
USL 16 26 333 5 - 61.54% 12.81 20.81
Wyoming 31 51 352 2 2 60.78% 6.90 11.35
Boise St 28 41 539 7 - 68.29% 13.15 19.25
Northeast 32 38 385 4 2 84.21% 10.13 12.03
UAB 23 31 341 5 - 74.19% 11.00 14.83
Nicholls St 32 46 434 6 - 69.57% 9.43 13.56
Arkansas St 33 42 508 7 - 78.57% 12.10 15.39
Tulane 37 57 471 2 2 64.91% 8.26 12.73
98-NBCS 275 396 3,887 38 6 69.44% 9.82 14.13
98-TOTALS 378 557 4,943 43 13 67.86% 8.87 13.08

Yr 1999
Florida St 28 48 240 1 2 58.33% 5.00 8.57
Texas A&M 45 65 331 2 2 69.23% 5.09 7.36
Alabama 27 50 368 2 1 54.00% 7.36 13.63
Southern Cal 35 68 408 3 3 51.47% 6.00 11.66
99-BCS 135 231 1,347 8 8 58.44% 5.83 9.98

Sam Hous St 16 18 254 3 - 88.89% 14.11 15.88
Middle Tenn 41 56 406 4 2 73.21% 7.25 9.90
UCF 46 62 561 5 1 74.19% 9.05 12.20
Toledo 44 66 508 3 1 66.67% 7.70 11.55
Northeast 35 48 383 6 - 72.92% 7.98 10.94
UAB 24 35 465 5 - 68.57% 13.29 19.38
99-NBCS 206 285 2,577 26 4 72.28% 9.04 12.51
99-TOTALS 341 516 3,924 34 12 66.09% 7.60 11.51


BCS-TOTALS 357 609 3,773 22 19 58.62% 6.20 10.57
NBCS-TOTALS 652 941 8,987 89 17 69.29% 9.55 13.78


CAREER
Yr 1997 293 477 3,881 34 10 61.43% 8.14 13.25
Yr 1998 380 559 4,943 46 13 67.98% 8.84 13.01
Yr 1999 342 516 3,922 35 12 66.28% 7.60 11.47
1,015 1,552 12,746 115 35 65.40% 8.21 12.56

[Dwayne From Minden]

Here is a breakdown of Luke's career numbers broken down vs BCS and NON BCS -

2 Points to remember -

1st and foremost - Tim played 1 year of JC ball and was red shirted 1 complete season at TECH before stepping on the playing field - thats 24 months of college maturity before he took an offical snap at TECH

2nd - Luke has yet to complete is 3rd year of college ball so his NON-BCS total numbers are a bit skewed...

LUKE COMP ATT YDS TDs INTs Comp % Yds/Att Yds/Comp
Yr 2000
Auburn 47 65 433 4 2 72.31% 6.66 9.21
Miami 42 72 418 3 3 58.33% 5.81 9.95
00-BCS 89 137 851 7 5 64.96% 6.21 9.56

Tulsa 9 13 101 1 - 69.23% 7.77 11.22
Middle Tenn 26 41 217 1 2 63.41% 5.29 8.35
USL 31 42 353 6 1 73.81% 8.40 11.39
UCF 34 52 363 1 2 65.38% 6.98 10.68
Northeast 27 37 404 4 1 72.97% 10.92 14.96
Hawaii 28 47 255 1 4 59.57% 5.43 9.11
00-NBCS 155 232 1,693 14 10 66.81% 7.30 10.92
00-TOTALS 244 369 2,544 21 15 66.12% 6.89 10.43

Yr 2001
Oklahoma St 29 54 299 1 2 53.70% 5.54 10.31
Auburn 27 52 381 3 5 51.92% 7.33 14.11
Kansas St 16 36 144 1 2 44.44% 4.00 9.00
Clemson 25 52 328 1 3 48.08% 6.31 13.12
01-BCS 97 194 1,152 6 12 50.00% 5.94 11.88

SMU 22 35 189 - 1 62.86% 5.40 8.59
Fresno St 30 58 313 2 2 51.72% 5.40 10.43
San Jose St 31 42 407 5 - 73.81% 9.69 13.13
Nevada 27 43 407 4 - 62.79% 9.47 15.07
Rice 30 45 384 2 1 66.67% 8.53 12.80
Boise St 30 46 464 4 - 65.22% 10.09 15.47
UTEP 20 31 227 5 1 64.52% 7.32 11.35
Tulsa 15 27 135 1 - 55.56% 5.00 9.00
01-NBCS 205 327 2,526 23 5 62.69% 7.72 12.32
01-TOTALS 302 521 3,678 29 17 57.97% 7.06 12.18

Yr 2002
Oklahoma St 38 66 448 3 - 57.58% 6.79 11.79
Clemson 26 44 213 - 3 59.09% 4.84 8.19
Penn St 36 56 406 2 3 64.29% 7.25 11.28
Texas A&M 23 42 176 - 1 54.76% 4.19 7.65
02-BCS 123 208 1,243 5 7 59.13% 5.98 10.11

Tulsa 10 19 162 3 1 52.63% 8.53 16.20
Rice - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
SMU - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
Nevada - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
San Jose St - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
Boise St - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
UTEP - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
Fresno St - - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
02-NBCS 10 19 162 3 1 52.63% 8.53 16.20
02-TOTALS 133 227 1,405 8 8 58.59% 6.19 10.56

BCS-TOTALS 309 539 3,246 18 24 57.33% 6.02 10.50
NBCS-TOTALS 370 578 4,381 40 16 64.01% 7.58 11.84

CAREER
Yr 2000 244 369 2,544 21 15 66.12% 6.89 10.43
Yr 2001 302 521 3,665 29 17 57.97% 7.03 12.14
Yr 2002 133 227 1,405 8 8 58.59% 6.19 10.56
- - - - - #DIV/0! #DIV/0! #DIV/0!
679 1,117 7,614 58 40 60.79% 6.82 11.21

[OmahaDawg]

Dwayne and other,
The one BIG thing that jumps out at me (other than the huge TD to INT ratio difference), is the difference in Yards per Att & Comp.

Rattay: 8.21 Yards/Att McCown: 6.82 Yards/Att
Difference of 1.59 per Att

Rattay: 12.56 Yards/Comp McCown: 11.21 Yards/Comp
Difference of 1.35 per Comp

Over the course of a game, the numbers add up and are Big numbers as we try to move the ball QUICKLY down the field to score quickly. Play calling? Timing? Receivers? Waht do you guys think?

[dawg68]

YAC (yards after the catch) is the answer to most all of the questions except interception ratio. Edwards total yardage figures alone could skew Tim's numbers. And most of his yards were yards after the catch. How many times did he take a 3 yard catch for 20-30 yards? I might not live long enough to see another talent like that on this campus.

I think DFM has a very good point about the 2 years of maturing and learning that Tim had that Luke has not. This is a big factor. It might be the answer to the interception ration question.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Dwayne and other,
The one BIG thing that jumps out at me (other than the huge TD to INT ratio difference), is the difference in Yards per Att & Comp.

Rattay: 8.21 Yards/Att McCown: 6.82 Yards/Att
Difference of 1.59 per Att

Rattay: 12.56 Yards/Comp McCown: 11.21 Yards/Comp
Difference of 1.35 per Comp

Over the course of a game, the numbers add up and are Big numbers as we try to move the ball QUICKLY down the field to score quickly. Play calling? Timing? Receivers? Waht do you guys think?

Tim had Troy Edwards, James Jordan, Josh Bradley and Sean Cangelosi - that is the difference in yards per attempt and yards per completion

Tim also played LATE in alot of ballgames against inferior opponents where he would have 4, 5 & 6 TD's against one interception and the score would be 60-14 late in the 3rd quarter before Crowton would pull him during his first two years - look at his numbers in 1999 when JBIII became HC - his per game numbers dropped because Jack doesn't believe in running up the score...

I think the numbers support these assumptions...