Bossdawg
What is UCONN's current conference affiliation? Also, don't both Toledo and Uconn seem out of place in CUSA?? Though both come from slightly larger media markets than Ruston.
Bossdawg
What is UCONN's current conference affiliation? Also, don't both Toledo and Uconn seem out of place in CUSA?? Though both come from slightly larger media markets than Ruston.
UCONN is being brought into the Big East for football, and they were already Big East in all other sports.
UCONN is already a Big East team.
CUSA should be looking to get out of the near NE and shrink the distance E to W and N to S of the conference.
I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?
Uconn is currently independent, they are not affiliated with the BigEast yet as some think, so if CUSA can jump on board first with a better offer, they can go, and CUSA has talked about Toledo as a possible member, more so than Tech.
You are correct, sir!Originally Posted by zharkins
I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?
YOriginally Posted by CARTEK
ou are correct, sir![/quote:3f6f2fc485]A quick look at the Uconn athletic site confirms the above. Great job zharkins!
So what football conference are they in this year?
INDEPENDENTOriginally Posted by Bossdawg
Exactly, the Big East has shown that they are not very trust worthy, ala Scuse. Their contract is not binding untill Uconn officially starts league play in football. They can back out of the football contract at anytime, but not the other sports, so I don't know how that would work. Probably some type of buy out clause, or compensation penalty for leaving the conference.
I am not saying that Uconn will be in CUSA, but they are not locked into playing football in the BigEast unless they actually play big east ball next year.
The three names I have seen in their what if scenario are UNT, La Tech, and Ulala in that order. UNT has the market and the urban environment that they like.
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I'm not sure if CUSA new additions (Rice, SMU, TU) and existing member TCU have much "pull" in the reorganized conference, but I would think that all 4 of those schools would fight like hell against UNT. Even with a larger media market, I think ULL is out. They have really screwed themselves the since 1996. If they would have just been decent (winning 4-5 games), they would probably be sitting pretty right now. If it comes down to it, we will likely get the nod over those two schools.
On another note, I would think that Marshall would be the Big East's next choice. Marshall has established themselves (at least perception-wise) as a solid football team over the past several years, and geographically they fit perfectly. However, it seems that most people think that if the BE moves then it will be for UCF. Either way (UCF or Marshall), the end result is the same for us...CUSA will likely add another school.
I think it's wrong to say ULL is in a larger media market. The Lafayette TV market has 215,830 households. Tech splits both the Shreveport (379,880 homes) and the Monroe-El Dorado market (174,000 homes). 40% of the Shreveport-Monroe market combined is still larger than the Lafayette market. In fact the Shreveport-Monroe combination has more households than the Lafayette-Baton Rouge combination.Originally Posted by 1L_dawg
Source--Nielsen Media website http://www.nielsenmedia.com/DMAs.html
FROM St. PETERSBURG TIMES NEWSPAPER
College football
Big East ADs sold - want USF invited
Decision now lies with presidents after officials make big impression.
By PETE YOUNG, Times Staff Writer
Published October 22, 2003
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Lee Roy Selmon and Judy Genshaft have sold Big East administrators on South Florida. Only the league presidents remain to be convinced.
Big East athletic directors will recommend to the conference presidents that USF be asked to join the league, Rutgers athletic director Bob Mulcahy told the Newark (N.J.) Star-Ledger for today's editions. The presidents will meet and extend invitations Nov.4 at the Grand Hyatt in New York City.
"(Selmon and Genshaft) made a very favorable impression on Friday," Mulcahy told the Star-Ledger.
Administrators from Big East schools and league officials, including commissioner Mike Tranghese, met Friday with USF president Genshaft and AD Selmon at the Continental Airlines suite at Newark Airport. Mulcahy said they left a distinguished image of USF, and the Bulls are the clear-cut next selection to be included in the ADs' proposal for expansion.
"That's very confirming," Genshaft said. "I'm pleased to hear that."
Genshaft said everything has gone well since Friday.
"I've talked to a number of people and things look very optimistic," she said. "I've talked to (administrators at) Conference USA schools and Big East schools and it's looking positive. But we don't know anything formal until November 4th."
Mulcahy and Syracuse AD Jake Crouthamel head the Big East football expansion effort to replace Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College, who are leaving for the Atlantic Coast Conference. Big East presidents are expected to follow the ADs' recommendations by adding five C-USA schools: Cincinnati, Louisville and USF for all sports, plus non-football schools DePaul and Marquette.
Changing leagues would be expensive, with the combined exit and entry fees for jumping from C-USA to the Big East in the millions. Also, accurately projecting future league affiliation with the BCS is critical in determining the financial benefits of the move.
"We're working the numbers right now," Genshaft said. "I haven't seen the results yet of what it will cost to leave (C-USA) and enter (the Big East) and what kind of revenue we would anticipate. That will be coming. We will be holding an executive board meeting next week to go over those numbers."
Cincinnati AD Bob Goin said exit and entry fees shouldn't be a deterrent.
"The value of this option with the Big East is the long-term relationships and rivalries," he said. "It's compatible schools and institutions joining together for the long-term benefits."
Genshaft said she would have final say on whether to accept an invitation and that the Big East is a "good fit."
The five proposed new schools are expected to join the Big East for the 2005-06 season, though it's possible that could be moved up or back a year.
The Big East also expects to add a football-only member, with Central Florida, East Carolina, Army and Navy among the candidates. However, that decision is expected to come after Nov. 4.
What about Temple? I read that the Big East may tell them "we were just kidding, we still want you."