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    Re: Collegefootballnews - Moats a possible steal

    Didn't the combine start yesterday? Does anyone have any news? I think if you have the NFL network, you can watch it.

    USA Today had a list of players they thought were the best at the combine and Moats wasn't on the list that was about 50-75 deep.

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    Re: Collegefootballnews - Moats a possible steal

    Here is an article from Todd McShay for ESPN Insider on the NFL combine. It doesn't have Ryan's name under the list of running backs so that's why I questioned when he was actually going. Maybe this is just a condensed list.



    By Todd McShay, Scouts Inc.
    Todd McShay Archive




    INDIANAPOLIS -- The hurry-up-and-wait experience known as the NFL scouting combine becomes tedious for coaches and personnel officials alike, but it's a necessary evil in the scouting process. With 333 NFL prospects in attendance, there is no more efficient means of gaining exact "measurables" than this seven-day event.

    The other wonderful benefit for NFL teams is it allows them to formally interview 60 prospects throughout the week, which saves significant time and money. The Buccaneers will send scouts out to meet with and test all of the prospects on their draft board, but how many other chances will GM Bruce Allen and head coach Jon Gruden get to sit in the same room and talk to a prospect? While there isn't much action during the first two days of the combine, NFL teams nevertheless get a lot out of it.

    The 2005 combine commenced at a snail's pace Thursday, and it doesn't promise to speed up much until Saturday morning. Thursday's morning session was devoted to measurements (height, weight, arm length and hand span) for 62 offensive linemen, four fullbacks, 14 running backs and 11 kicking specialists (punters and place-kickers).

    The three-hour afternoon session featured more than 200 NFL personnel officials and coaches crammed into a conference room to witness 40 of those same prospects hammer out as many repetitions of 225 pounds on the bench press as possible.

    Because many of the offensive linemen were running late due to the extensive medical process, there will be another group of 30 or so whose bench press was pushed to Friday. Place-kickers, punters, quarterbacks and wide receivers are exempt from the strength portion of the combine.

    Quarterbacks, wide receivers and the second group of running backs were scheduled to get their measurements out of the way Friday morning. Those same prospects will try their luck on the bench press, while the place-kickers and punters showcase their skills on the turf of the RCA Dome.

    The workout schedule for the remainder of the combine is as follows:
    Saturday: Offensive linemen and running backs (Group 1).
    Sunday: Running backs (Group 2), quarterbacks and wide receivers.
    Monday: Tight Ends and defensive linemen.
    Tuesday: Linebackers and defensive backs.


    Here is a positional breakdown of Thursday's events. We'll follow with reports Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday detailing the results of each prospect who participated in the workouts.

    Running back and fullbacks

    All eyes have been on Maurice Clarett, and so far, so good. Clarett has a quiet but determined demeanor about him this week. He was a cut 234 pounds at the weigh-ins and produced the second most reps (22) of the nine running backs who participated on the bench press.

    Scouts and coaches say Clarett seems to be a changed man. Maybe the failures and fallouts of the last two years have finally humbled him. If he continues to impress in interviews and has a strong workout Saturday, Clarett could move back into the first day of the draft.

    As for the fullbacks, Texas A&M's Keith Joseph and North Carolina's Madison Hedgecock are in impressive physical condition and showed off their strength on the bench with 27 and 29 reps, respectively. Louisville RB Lionel Gates had the best bench press of the running backs with 23.

    Cedric Benson (Texas), Ciatrick Fason (Florida) and Kay-Jay Harris (West Virginia) elected not to participate in the strength portion of the workout. Benson will not participate in any of the drills here, opting to do all of his work at his on-campus workout March 23. Fason might take part in one or two aspects of Saturday's workout but will do the majority of his work in Gainesville, Fla., March 9. Harris will bench on campus March 11, but will do all other aspects of the running back workout here Saturday.

    Wisconsin RB Anthony Davis is well-built for his size but was even shorter than most anticipated at 5-foot-6 5/8. When his height was announced in the conference room this morning there was a buzz of disbelief from the scouts and coaches in attendance.

    Running backs and fullbacksProspect, Position, SchoolHt.Wt.ArmHandBench repsKevin Dudley, FB Michigan600423831.39.319Justin Green, FB, Montana511325131.69.423Madison Hedgecock, FB, UNC603026631.49.629Keith Joseph, FB, Texas A&M601725431.51027J.J. Arrington, RB, California508721430.48.618Marion Barber III, RB, Minnesota511322131.48.720Cedric Benson, RB, Texas5104222329.1NLDecori Birmingham, RB, Arkansas5096210--914Nehemiah Broughton, RB, Citadel511425032.39.6--Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn600223331.59.318Maurice Clarett, RB, Ohio State511523430.69.322Deandra Cobb, RB, Michigan State509619631.68.717Anthony Davis, RB, Wisconsin506520029.68.518Ciatrick Fason, RB, Florida6006207308.3NLLionel Gates, RB, Louisville511522231.110.123Frank Gore, RB, Miami5093217319.3--Ryan Grant, RB, Notre Dame601121531.68.417Kay-Jay Harris, RB, West Virginia600324331.510--

    Note: In NFL scouting circles, heights are listed in four-digit form. The first digit represents feet, the second two represent inches, and the fourth represents eighths of an inch. So, the listing 6037 translates to 6-foot-3 7/8.

    Offensive tackles

    Four offensive tackle prospects opted out of the bench press, three because of injuries – Adam Terry (strained oblique), Michael Watson (right shoulder) and Erik Pears (torn labrum). Trai Essex did not work out because his pro timing day is so soon. Terry's on-campus workout is March 16, Watson's is March 11, Pears' March 23 and Essex's March 4.

    Of the other 28 tackle prospects, 12 were scheduled to lift Friday morning because they were running late due to medical examinations. Those include Anthony Alabi, Calvin Armstrong, Khalif Barnes, Alex Barron, Jammal Brown, Chris Colmer, Jonathan Colon, Jon Dunn, Sam Lightbody, Michael Munoz, Frank Omiyale and Rob Petitti. Petitti lost some much needed weight and did a good job of getting down to 347 pounds, but still could stand to drop another 10 or so pounds.

    Ray Willis gets the "intensity award" for the biggest commotion made during his bench press attempts. He had one of the best results from the OT group with 27 reps, an impressive showing for a prospect with such long arms (35.4). Willis was just edged out by Adam Kieft, who finished with 28. "Reach" is a big test for offensive tackles, and Barron more than passed with 37.6 inches.

    This has to be one of the tallest OT classes in NFL combine history, as 10 of the 28 stand taller than 6-foot-7, and three of those stand 6-8 or taller. Sam Lightbody is the tallest at 6090.

    Offensive tacklesProspect, Position, SchoolHt.Wt.ArmHandBench repsAnthony Alabi, OT, Texas Christian----------Calvin Armstrong, OT, Wash. State607132534.110.2--Khalif Barnes, OT, Washington60563053410.1--Alex Barron, OT, Florida State607432037.610.2--Wesley Britt, OT, Alabama608031432.49.2--Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma605731634.69.1--Chris Colmer, OT, North Carolina605231032.110.1--Jonathan Colon, OT, Florida607231734.611.3--Harvey Dahl, OT, Nevada Reno606129934.510.3--Jon Dunn, OT, Virginia Polytech6072328------Trai Essex, OT, Northwestern60483243310--Marcus Johnson, OT, Mississippi606432135.49.4--Adam Kieft, OT, Central Michigan607233733.510.1--Sam Lightbody, OT, Wash.609032135.310--Daniel Loper, OT, Texas Tech60603063310.614Pete McMahon, OT, Iowa607532934.31026Michael Munoz, OT, Tennessee6054306349.6--Doug Nienhouse, OT, Oregon State605630733.31022Frank Omiyale, OT, Tenn. Tech60423103610.1--Jeremy Parquet, OT, So. Miss.606632334.31017Erik Pears, OT, Colorado State607631233.410.1--Rob Petitti, OT, Pittsburgh605734733.610--Michael Roos, OT, E. Washington6065320329.119David Stewart, OT, Miss. State606431434.310.124Adam Terry, OT, Syracuse608033032.410.6--Michael Watson, OT, West Va.604131631.69.6--Sam Wilder, OT, Colorado604739831.58.723Ray Willis, OT, Florida State605532735.410.527

    Offensive guards

    Willie McNeill was a no-show, and there seems to be confusion as to why. Nick Steitz did not lift because of a sore throat. He has three pro timing days at Oregon (March 3, 10 and 31) to make up for it. Elton Brown is simply not working out and will have one shot in Charlottesville, Va., on March 23.

    Eleven guard prospects had their lifting sessions pushed to Friday. Those include Logan Mankins, Chris Myers, Leon Robinson, Joe Berger, Clinton Brooks Jr., Doug Buckles, Jonathon Clinkscale, Dylan Gandy, Justin Geisinger, Nick Kaczur and Chris Kemoeatu.

    Brooks Jr. has the most impressive frame of any of the guards. He has great height for a guard at 6-5½ and has the longest reach of any of the linemen who measured Thursday. He always has possessed the talent, but the knock on was that he's an underachiever who doesn't work hard enough and is too inconsistent.

    Evan Mathis looks to be in peak physical condition. He played guard and tackle at Alabama and is tall enough to play both in the NFL. He also was impressive on the bench with 35 repetitions.

    Scott Young has set the bar on the bench press with 43 reps. It's even more impressive when considering he has a relatively long reach of 34 inches.

    Offensive guardsProspect, Position, SchoolHt.Wt.ArmHandBench repsJoe Berger, OG, Michigan Tech605430332.19--Clinton Brooks Jr., OG, Maryland605430936.310.4--Elton Brown, OG, Virginia604732934.29.7--Doug Buckles, OG, Mississippi60523113410.5--Dan Buenning, OG, Wisconsin603732033.29.229Jonathon Clinkscale, OG, Wisconsin602231533.310.4--Dan Connolly, OG, SE Missouri State603531132.29.222Dylan Gandy, OG, Texas Tech603030433.39.7--Justin Geisinger, OG, Vanderbilt603632232.69.5--Nick Kaczur, OG, Toledo 604431932.710.3--Chris Kemoeatu, OG, Utah603434433.510.3--Logan Mankins, OG, Fresno State604130733.39.3--Evan Mathis, OG, Alabama605230432.410.635Willie McNeill, OG, North CarolinaNo Show Chris Myers, OG, Miami604530032.310.3--Leon Robinson, OG, Georgia Tech604031434.710.6--Wes Sims, OG, Oklahoma605031832.211.126Adam Snyder, OG, Oregon605331632.710.321 Nick Steitz, OG, Oregon603431232.610.5--Claude Terrell, OG, New Mexico602234333.19.227Scott Young, OG, BYU603531234.39.243

    Centers

    None of the 13 center prospects opted out of the bench press, but five were moved to Friday morning: Jason Brown, Geoff Hangartner, Drew Hodgdon, Scott Mruczkowski and Ben Wilkerson.

    The only two with 30 or more reps were Eric Ghiaciuc (30) and Rob Hunt (31). Ghiaciuc provided comic relief for the afternoon when he used a reverse grip during his bench press attempt. He claims he has been using the unorthodox style for two years now, and the NFL officials in attendance simply shook their heads and allowed him to proceed.

    David Bass played the majority of his career at guard before moving to center with nine games remaining in his senior season. He is working out with the centers this week and has gotten off to a good start. He is in great physical shape, has excellent overall size for the position, has the biggest hands of all the center prospects, and had an impressive outing on the bench with 29 reps.

    Offensive centersProspect, Position, SchoolHt.Wt.ArmHandBench repsDavid Bass, OC, Michigan604431932.210.529Jason Brown, OC, North Carolina602631332.410.3--Tim Brown, OC, West Virginia604431833.39.723Juice Coston, OC, North Carolina603331033.610.321Eric Ghiaciuc, OC, Central Michigan604030232.310.130Richie Incognito, OC, Nebraska603230532.310.129Geoff Hangartner, OC, Texas A&M605030133.310--Dew Hodgdon, OC, Arizona State60263093210--Rob Hunt, OC, North Dakota603630132.111.231Scott Mruczkowski, OC, Bowling Green604432133.110.1--Raymond Preston, OC, Illinois605131133.710.121Chris Spencer, OC, Mississippi602730933.410.126Benjamin Wilkerson, OC LSU60342993510.5--

    Punters and place-kickers

    Thursday's events were more of a formality for the punters and kickers. Height, weight, arm length and hand size don't play a great role in evaluating kickers and punters, and they also are exempt from the bench press.

    Friday will be a much more critical aspect of the scouting process for those positions, as the punters and place-kickers will kick from inside the RCA Dome with hundreds of NFL personnel officials and coaches looking on. Historically, punters and kickers have struggled mightily in these workouts. The pressure of the event combined with the new and much harder footballs seem to be two of the best theories as to why.

    Offensive centersProspect, Position, SchoolHt.Wt.ArmHandBryce Benekos, PK, UTEP605122732.411.2Dustin Colquitt, PK, Tennessee6023211318.6 Cole Farden, PK, Oklahoma State5104205298.5Adam Finley, PK, Michigan603522130.69.4Reggie Hodges, PK, Ball State600322628.78.6Tyler Jones, PK, Boise State600620130.38.7Nick Novak, PK, Maryland511419127.69.1Mike Nugent, PK, Ohio State5095182299.7Matt Payne, PK BYU604022930.29.3Dave Rayner, PK, Michigan State602021031.59.6Joe Rheem, PK, Kansas State600221730.58.3Scouts Inc. watches games, breaks down film and studies football from all angles for ESPN Insider.

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    Re: Collegefootballnews - Moats a possible steal

    I know it looks like a bunch of crap put together, but it's actually some good info. on players at the combine. Here's the way to read it.


    Prospect, position, school./Ht./Wt./Arm/Hand/Bench reps

    Note: In NFL scouting circles, heights are listed in four-digit form. The first digit represents feet, the second two represent inches, and the fourth represents eighths of an inch. So, the listing 6037 translates to 6-foot-3 7/8.

    Sorry, but when I copied and pasted it that's the way it showed up.

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    Re: Collegefootballnews - Moats a possible steal

    I would like to see the Jaguars pick him up in the 2nd or 3rd.

    It would be great to see him on a team with a couple of other Bulldogs (Troy Edwards & Scobee).


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    Re: Collegefootballnews - Moats a possible steal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sundog
    I would like to see the Jaguars pick him up in the 2nd or 3rd.

    It would be great to see him on a team with a couple of other Bulldogs (Troy Edwards & Scobee).

    Isn't Joe Smith hangin' around there too? I know he may not have a roster spot, but hopefully, he'll be able to fight his way on to the team.
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    Re: Collegefootballnews - Moats a possible steal

    Unfortunately the Jags cut Joe Smith last year because he was the 5th rb behind fred taylor, labrandon toefield, greg jones (rookie) and david allen. I think the titans picked him up because he was listed on their roster.

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