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    Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado St


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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Pac-2 MWC C-USA
    Oregon St Air Force FIU
    Washington St Nevada Jax St
    Boise St UNLV Kennesaw St
    Colorado St New Mexico Liberty
    Fresno St SJSU LaJech
    SDSU Wyoming MTSU
    Utah St UTEP NMSU
    Gonzaga (non-FB) Hawaii SHSU
    ??? WKU
    Delaware
    Missouri St
    Schools Leaving Schools Leaving
    Boise St
    Colorado St
    Fresno St
    San Diego St
    Utah St
    UTEP








    Pac has to add 2 more schools. Do they go for a Dallas/Houston Play? Does MWC stay at 8 or add a UTEP/NMSU? I don't see this moving any dominos for us right now. AAC is at 13 full members, plus Army/Navy, so I don't see them poaching CUSA if they lose a couple.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    Pac-2 (Needs 8) MWC ???
    Oregon St Air Force
    Washington St Nevada
    Boise St UNLV
    Colorado St New Mexico
    Fresno St SJSU
    SDSU Utah St
    ??? SJSU
    ??? Wyoming


    Pac has to add 2 more schools. Do they go for a Dallas/Houston Play? Does MWC stay at 8 or add a UTEP/NMSU? I don't see this moving any dominos for us right now. AAC is at 13 full members, plus Army/Navy, so I don't see them poaching CUSA if they lose a couple.
    In the end I think they take Wyoming and Airforce and then MWC takes UTEP and someone else
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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

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    The Pac-12 owes the Mountain West $43 million for the four schools it is poaching, according to a copy of the scheduling agreement previously obtained by @FOS. Unless they've negotiated. But of course, the Pac has this money in a war chest from its lawsuit w departing schools.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    In the end I think they take Wyoming and Airforce and then MWC takes UTEP and someone else
    We can only hope that the MWC takes NMST along with UTEP. Having both together is much better than one.


    I wonder if AFA isn't taken do they attempt to go to the AAC and join up with Army/Navy.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgonit View Post
    We can only hope that the MWC takes NMST along with UTEP. Having both together is much better than one.


    I wonder if AFA isn't taken do they attempt to go to the AAC and join up with Army/Navy.
    I don't think AFA goes AAC. Army & Navy are football only, with the rest in Patriot League. They already have a yearly round-robin, so they don't have to be in the same conference.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgonit View Post
    We can only hope that the MWC takes NMST along with UTEP. Having both together is much better than one.


    I wonder if AFA isn't taken do they attempt to go to the AAC and join up with Army/Navy.
    If UTEP or NMSU is going to go, we've got to root for them both to go. Depending on what happens elsewhere, losing both might be good or bad (really a mix) for us. Losing just one is way worse than losing both or keeping both.

    I guess some of those MWC schools have taken pains to "upgrade" from some of the others before, so it shouldn't be surprising that they'd do it again. But I really wonder how much better off they'll be. I guess that leftover Pac-12 money will go a long way, but while OSU and WSU are better-off (and therefore better to share a league with) than New Mexico or USU or whatever - it's still just Oregon State and Washington State. If the MWC had just stuck together, the 2-Pac would have had to have joined eventually. But that's always the case in conference realignment I guess, if the weaker conference could ever commit, they'd no longer necessarily be the weaker conference.

    Oh well, some unexpected shifts might work in our favor.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    We will most likely never get into the new MWC or the AAC.....i guess we will see some regional realignment between the MAC, SBC and CUSA.
    Should we be hoping that Memphis and Tulane end up in the ACC and Stanford back in the Pac12? That may be our best shot......but realistically, it is probably some new regional conference.

    Do we have enough ties with the AAC if Tulane and Memphis are gone to get us in there? Maybe? it would probably have to be a SMU to ACC type deal though.

    A regional conference could be:

    Sam Houston
    Texas State
    Arkansas State
    Southern Miss
    UL-L
    UL-M
    South Alabama
    Louisiana Tech
    Troy

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Tulane and Memphis could be in the mix -

    No way they take UTEP & NMST together

    No one wants NMST but us
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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Tulane and Memphis could be in the mix -

    No way they take UTEP & NMST together

    No one wants NMST but us
    NMST was a bad move but we had no other moves to make at the time.

    At this point, I’m just praying for some conference confusion that allows us to beg our way back into the sunbelt.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Needs to be renamed the PAC-State Conference.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Tulane and Memphis could be in the mix -

    No way they take UTEP & NMST together

    No one wants NMST but us
    Could school specific exit fees be ever devised? Say if only UTEP is taken, the cost is atronomically high, but if taken with NMSU, the cost is even cheaper?

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgonit View Post
    Could school specific exit fees be ever devised? Say if only UTEP is taken, the cost is atronomically high, but if taken with NMSU, the cost is even cheaper?
    You can always negotiate exit fees

    I don't know if you could increase them
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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    You can always negotiate exit fees

    I don't know if you could increase them
    Theoretically couldn't the members of the conference hold a vote about increasing exit fees? The example I created on the CUSA board would be like this:

    "Any two members located within 50 miles of each other but located more than 400 miles from other members will be held to a different exit fee structure. 30 million dollars for one school to leave without the other, but 30,000 per school if both leave at the same time."

    It would easily be a 10-2 vote and possibly 11-1 with UTEP being the lone dissent. The idea being that it would help prevent losing only one of the UTEP/NMSU pair. We could lose both or keep both but losing one makes scheduling and travel worse.

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    Re: Sources: Pac-12 rebuilding conference, targeting Boise St, SDSU, Fresno St, Colorado

    I think we need to just accept the fact that our administration thru the years destroyed any chances of us ever being considered by any respectable conference. Our performance on the field hasn't helped matters. We're toast. We're done. It was fun while it lasted. We've become a legend in our own minds. It's embarrassing.

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