I will give you that they arent big on the political scene, but what makes Moore and Dobson goons? I am just wondering why you would use that characterization for them.Originally Posted by DCDAWG
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I will give you that they arent big on the political scene, but what makes Moore and Dobson goons? I am just wondering why you would use that characterization for them.
Just spewing venom that day, dhuss. A couple of gin martinis really loosens up the keyboard, you know? Now "charisma deficient" I'm sticking with.
Of course, there are some on here that will tell you I am a conservative lemming without a mind or compass -- CARTEK
Hey man, I understand. I was just wondering.
More on Hillary. And I didn't think she was running...
The $6 Million Woman
During DC feeding frenzies like the one we're in the midst of now, we tend to use our "Spotlight" to highlight stories you SHOULD be obsessing over.
-- Today's is a no brainer: Hillary Clinton's fundraising.
-- Since we began tracking FEC reports way back in the '80s, we could only find one other SEN candidate who sported a $6M quarter: John Thune in the 3rdQ of '04 and that was during the height of his campaign.
-- What makes Clinton's $6M 2ndQ take so amazing is that it took place in an off-year quarter, not during the heat of a campaign (see Thune). Let's do some math. If Clinton maintains just this current pace of raising $6M every quarter, while banking $4M of that $6M, she'll have approx. $30M leftover AFTER her '06 SEN race (assuming she actually spends $18M on her re-election effort). Consider that $30M her WH '08 floor. How likely is it she'll have an $8M, $10M or $15M quarter before her re-election campaign is over? We've warned other WH '08 Dems that Clinton is going to set a fundraising pace that's never been seen. The idea of Clinton STARTING Jan. 2007 with $50M in the bank is looking more likely by the day.
36NEW YORK: Queen Of The Hill
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) brought in upwards of $6M in the 2ndQ, giving her a total of almost $12.6M. More than $5.8M came from individuals, more than 90% of whom gave $100 or less. She "has not used any of her own money or taken out any loans to help finance her campaign so far" (Kelly, Gannett/USA Today, 7/17). HRC's numbers "set the pace for all her colleagues in the first six months of the year." Despite the large proportion of individual donations, the Center for Responsive Politics' Steven Weiss said HRC led all of her colleagues in "donations from big industries" including the legal, real estate and health care fields. This was unusual because large industrial groups usually give more to GOPers than Dems.
HRC camp spokesperson Ann Lewis said there was no specific fundraising goal: "We don't know who her major party opponent will be, and there are independent parties, all of whom said they are planning to raise a lot of money" (Turner, Buffalo News, 7/16). HRC camp exec. dir. Patty Solis Doyle: "We expect to face very well-funded opposition next year. This report indicates that we will have the resources we will need to get the senator's message out."
None of her prospective opponents has filed a finance statement, though Nixon son-in-law/atty. Ed Cox (R) and ex-Yonkers Mayor John Spencer (R) have created campaign cmtes (Gannett/USA Today, 7/17).
http://nationaljournal.com/pubs/hotline/
Of course, there are some on here that will tell you I am a conservative lemming without a mind or compass -- CARTEK
alcohol and messageboards are a bad mixture.
Re: Hillary 2008
Well maybe, just maybe, karl marx is not such a bad person after all. He would probably be pretty happy what with our social security system, food stamps, fed. gov't farm subsidies and corporate R&D programs, progressive taxation, massive federal land ownership, and BIG GOVERNMENT into everything.
i have no problem with marx's ideas...i never said he was a bad person...i believe hi intentions were good. i've read the "communist manifesto" and "das capital." but the man was not a moderate and neither is howard dean...marx was a socialist/communist and dean is border-line, he is by no means a moderate...that was my point, not the throw dirt on either of their names.
and actually, i think marx would be very unhappy with the state of the world and also how his ideas have been perverted over the years. big government wasn't his goal...it was a means to an end, which was complete equality (beautiful in concept...but sorely lacking in practicality).
Man, I dont think it could have been said any better, sik. It is a good concept, but it woudl never work. People do not trust others to do their fair share. Even when you and your family do collective work, someone is always compaining about someone else not pulling their fair share. Now how bad would it be with all of the piggybackers of our society. Sorry, it is just impractical. Not to mention, the most important truth in free market beliefs in my opinion, people respond to incentives. Where is the incentive to get better if you are socialist? There is no money to be made; therefore, not many businesses nor individuals will strive to get better. Free market plays on human nature of competition and survival. They are there, you cant just take them out of the equation.
Hillary will run with Obama as her VP. The only answer for the republicans will be a moderate McCain. McCain wins!
You're right, I don't know very much about karl marx. The world has changed so much since he was alive that it is difficult to say for sure what he would think about our current political/economic systems. He could very easily be listening to "Moondance" in some Swiss chateau today because of currency trading.
McCain has burned a lot of bridges the last 2 years. He will never get the nomination. If anybody runs a 3rd party candidacy, it will be him, and he'll deliver us President Hillary Clinton in doing so.
Rudy has almost as little chance of getting the nomination as McCain. Getting the nomination is all about the base support. Neither of the above have that.
The Republican nominee will be:
1)George Allen
2)Jeb Bush
3)Bill Frist
4)Condy Rice
5)Some other republican governor you've never heard of.
Pretty good summary. Although I would think that Rudy or McCain could get on the ticket as a VP. That is if they wanted the job. This could help the GOP wrap up another Pres. election, in theory at least.
Good summary. I think that is the only way HRC will win.
i hope you're right. it just seems like nobody is surfacing right now as a really strong republican candidate. i'm hoping that hilary's obvious fakeness and extreme liberalism will not be succesfully hidden from the general public, because if it is, we will be in for a long 4 years.
I don't think Dr. Rice has the "base support" among a lot of the "good ol' boys" to get the nomination, either. Don't get me wrong, I think she would be among the best Presidents on the above list...I just don't think she could get the popular support.
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