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    UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    UNT's Byerly will miss upcoming season
    By Brett Vito / Staff Writer

    Joey Byerly, a sophomore quarterback who was projected to start for North Texas, is among four players who will not be with the Mean Green in the 2005 season.

    Byerly, junior fullback Chris Nevins and redshirt freshman lineman Micah West could all return to the team at a later date, according to UNT head coach Darrell Dickey. Senior linebacker Montrell Parks has decided to give up football.

    “Joey, Micah and Chris will not be able to participate this fall because of NCAA requirements,” Dickey said. “All three have informed me of their intention to address their situation and return to the team as soon as possible.”

    The loss of Byerly leaves UNT without a quarterback on its roster that has thrown a pass in a college game.

    Byerly spent last season as the primary backup for starter Scott Hall and was expected to compete with redshirt freshman Daniel Meager for the starting job in spring practice.

    Byerly took the majority of the snaps with the first-team offense after Meager injured his right shoulder.

    Meager had surgery on the shoulder in March and has since resumed working out in preparation for the season. Dickey said Meager will be ready for the beginning of fall practice.

    Hall took all but a few snaps for the Mean Green last season, when he threw for 1,806 yards and 14 touchdowns while earning second-team All-Sun Belt Conference honors.

    Byerly threw for 73 yards on 12 attempts last season and took the lead in the competition for the starting quarterback job in the spring.

    The former West Orange Stark standout completed 9-of-24 passes for 150 yards and a touchdown during UNT’s spring game when the team’s receivers dropped several passes.

    Dickey said before spring practice he might consider signing a junior college quarterback to compete for the starting job in 2005. Byerly’s performance helped convince Dickey to head into the season with the quarterbacks already with the team.

    Barring a late addition, UNT will enter fall practice with six players listed as quarterbacks on its roster.

    Meager will join junior Cullen Mills, sophomore Jonathan Ieans, redshirt freshman Kellen Haynes and freshmen Steve Warren and Matt Phillips.

    Mills left the team during the offseason, but has since returned.

    The loss of Byerly could open the door for Meager, one of the top quarterback recruits of the Dickey era. Meager threw for 1,720 yards and 16 touchdowns as a senior at Richardson Pearce and was ranked No. 63 in The Dallas Morning News’ Area Top 100 list of college prospects.

    Haynes, Ieans and Mills also have experience in UNT’s system, but Dickey said he has not ruled out any scenario, including starting a freshman.

    Phillips threw for 1,950 yards as a senior at San Angelo Lake View and will have a chance to compete for the job in fall practice.

    UNT could also turn to Korey Washington. The Cedar Park graduate was a standout high school quarterback who is projected to play defensive back for the Mean Green. Washington was named a first-team quarterback on the Austin American-Statesman’s 2004 All-Central Texas Football Team.

    Washington, 5-10, 185, accounted for nearly 3,000 yards of total offense while leading Cedar Park to the Class 5A state quarterfinals. He could be an intriguing option if UNT’s other quarterbacks struggle.

    Nevins played both fullback and linebacker while contributing on special teams. West played both offensive and defensive line, while Parks was a backup linebacker who finished with four tackles last season.

    The loss of Byerly will be the biggest blow for the Mean Green among the players who will not play this fall. UNT opens the season on Sept. 3 at LSU and begins Sun Belt Conference play one week later at Middle Tennessee, a team that returns 18 starters from a squad that finished 4-4 in conference play last season.

    Several preseason publications have named the Blue Raiders as one of the main threats to end the Mean Green’s run of four straight Sun Belt Conference titles.

    The lack of options at quarterback could force UNT to lean even more heavily on a pair of standout running backs. Senior Patrick Cobbs won the national rushing title in 2003 before suffering knee and hand injuries that forced him to sit out most of the 2004 season.

    Sophomore Jamario Thomas took over for Cobbs and went on to win the Mean Green’s second straight national rushing title in his first season at UNT.

    Thomas’ performance helped UNT finish 7-5, win the Sun Belt title and earn a fourth straight trip to the New Orleans Bowl last season.

    The Mean Green will enter the 2005 season with a 25-game winning streak in Sun Belt play.

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Well, hopefully the backup to last years "All-Sunbelt conference 2nd team" (they try to track down a second team in the SBC?) QB can get it together. I don't want to hear any excuses when we stomp those punks back to texas.

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    True, but from the same article:

    Meager had surgery on the shoulder in March and has since resumed working out in preparation for the season. Dickey said Meager will be ready for the beginning of fall practice.

    The loss of Byerly could open the door for Meager, one of the top quarterback recruits of the Dickey era. Meager threw for 1,720 yards and 16 touchdowns as a senior at Richardson Pearce and was ranked No. 63 in The Dallas Morning News’ Area Top 100 list of college prospects.
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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerwolf
    Meager had surgery on the shoulder in March and has since resumed working out in preparation for the season. Dickey said Meager will be ready for the beginning of fall practice. The loss of Byerly could open the door for Meager...
    Since the kid has never thrown a college pass and was injured in March he had BETTER be "ready for fall practice".

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    It sounds like NT is going to have the same problem we had last year. QB problems and good RBs. Their defense isn't very good either, so they'll be forced to rely somewhat on the two good RBs. We all saw what being one-dimensional last year does to you. However.. our defense got better and we did have a few glimmers of passing success, if not for our WRs dropping the stupid ball all the time, and having to play 4 ranked teams in a row(at least we beat the most important one). I really think that the games to watch this year for NT will be their games against Troy and ULM. Forget our game with them and the LSU game really. On paper, they have some things to address and at least just winning the Belt will be good. They talk a lot about beating us but that's late in the season. Either of us could have problems by then but I'm really just worried about playing a good game at Florida and definitely whipping Kansas.

    Good luck with the QB situation, Green. We had a lot of fun with that last year(not).

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    Wink Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Last time we found ourselves in almost the same predicament with our QB situation, we had to start a RS frosh with no Game Day experience and he only guided our team to a bowl game that we even won in 2002; while beating the CUSA football champion in your state's Big Easy.

    Both La Tech and NT will have experienced frosh' by the time we meet in October and thats whether they are true frosh or RS frosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktulu7
    It sounds like NT is going to have the same problem we had last year. QB problems and good RBs. Their defense isn't very good either, so they'll be forced to rely somewhat on the two good RBs. We all saw what being one-dimensional last year does to you. However.. our defense got better and we did have a few glimmers of passing success, if not for our WRs dropping the stupid ball all the time, and having to play 4 ranked teams in a row(at least we beat the most important one). I really think that the games to watch this year for NT will be their games against Troy and ULM. Forget our game with them and the LSU game really. On paper, they have some things to address and at least just winning the Belt will be good. They talk a lot about beating us but that's late in the season. Either of us could have problems by then but I'm really just worried about playing a good game at Florida and definitely whipping Kansas.

    Good luck with the QB situation, Green. We had a lot of fun with that last year(not).
    Dont' discount our "D" just yet. Actually, our linebackers and secondary should be in pretty good shape.

    We added a JUCO DE (Wille Ransom) who has already been projected in one pre-season college magazine as the SBC Newcomer of the Year so he comes into Denton with pedigree. Our linebacking crew are mobile, fast with good size and at the end of last season were playing lights out. We have a CB who may be playing on Sundays next year and the other CB is one of the best athletes we've had in recent years.

    Also, we have one particular DL who reminds some of ex NT Playboy All American Brandon Kennedy yet is taller than BK.

    So I don't know where you are coming up with this "their defense isn't very good" unless this is just smack?
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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Quote Originally Posted by PlummMeanGreen

    So I don't know where you are coming up with this "their defense isn't very good" unless this is just smack?
    Um, maybe he watched USM with their below average offense run all over you last December. That was the only game I saw last year of the greenies but NT looked like they didnt belong in Div1-a, much less in a bowl game. Oh wait, you play in the Belch! That explains it...

    You guys also gave up a crap load of points and yards to teams like ULM, baylor and even Idaho, didnt you?

    You guys had better come correct to Ruston or it will be a long ride home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altadawg
    Um, maybe he watched USM with their below average offense run all over you last December. That was the only game I saw last year of the greenies but NT looked like they didnt belong in Div1-a, much less in a bowl game. Oh wait, you play in the Belch! That explains it...

    You guys also gave up a crap load of points and yards to teams like ULM, baylor and even Idaho, didnt you?

    You guys had better come correct to Ruston or it will be a long ride home.
    Surely you're not talking about that "below average" Southern Miss offense (and team) that almost beat the #4 ranked Cal Bears on ESPN 2 weeks before they played us in New Orleans, now are you?

    In 2002, NT in a particular bowl game beat the (CUSA) conference champion that a handful of you think is the end-all panacea for your football program; BTW in "only" the 2'nd year of existence for the football portion of the Sun Belt. I have yet to hear anything about that win over here for some subtle reason. We seemed to fit in NCAA D1-A that night on national ESPN TV.

    Boise State of the upper division of the WAC? We beat them 3 out of the last 4 times we played them in the 90's.

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Quote Originally Posted by PlummMeanGreen
    Dont' discount our "D" just yet. Actually, our linebackers and secondary should be in pretty good shape.

    We added a JUCO DE (Wille Ransom) who has already been projected in one pre-season college magazine as the SBC Newcomer of the Year so he comes into Denton with pedigree. Our linebacking crew are mobile, fast with good size and at the end of last season were playing lights out. We have a CB who may be playing on Sundays next year and the other CB is one of the best athletes we've had in recent years.

    Also, we have one particular DL who reminds some of ex NT Playboy All American Brandon Kennedy yet is taller than BK.

    So I don't know where you are coming up with this "their defense isn't very good" unless this is just smack?
    I liked Kennedy. He reminded me of Sapp. Where is he now?

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Quote Originally Posted by PlummMeanGreen
    Surely you're not talking about that "below average" Southern Miss offense (and team) that almost beat the #4 ranked Cal Bears on ESPN 2 weeks before they played us in New Orleans, now are you?

    Boise State of the upper division of the WAC? We beat them 3 out of the last 4 times we played them in the 90's.
    Point 1 Yes I am. Southern Miss scored all of 16 points on Cal, big whoop. Southern Miss had the 95th ranked total offense last year, genius.


    Here is the link. I'd say that 95th out of 117 qualifies as below average: http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank....otoff&site=org

    Point 2 We had never lost to Boise until 2002. I think we were 4-0.

    In case you just crawled out of a cave, you would know that the Broncos of the 90's were weak, like you. If you had played Boise anywhere, anytime from 2001 on they would have beaten the Greenies by 60 points. Even if you played your best game EVER, they would have still beaten you by 30.

    Deal. With. It.

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Quote Originally Posted by altadawg
    Point 1 Yes I am. Southern Miss scored all of 16 points on Cal, big whoop. Southern Miss had the 95th ranked total offense last year, genius.


    Here is the link. I'd say that 95th out of 117 qualifies as below average: http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank....otoff&site=org

    Point 2 We had never lost to Boise until 2002. I think we were 4-0.

    In case you just crawled out of a cave, you would know that the Broncos of the 90's were weak, like you. If you had played Boise anywhere, anytime from 2001 on they would have beaten the Greenies by 60 points. Even if you played your best game EVER, they would have still beaten you by 30.

    Deal. With. It.
    Did your own cave not allow you to pick up the USM vs Cal Bears game on ESPN last November? It was a close game till the end.

    FWIW, USM had many of its offense (beginning with their starting QB) injured during much of last Fall. I heard that info on a TCU radio broadcast of their game vs the Horned Frogs.

    Of course, they were beginning to get 100% healthy by the time they played the Cal Bears and their whole team must have all gone to one of those Benny Hinn healing services by the time we got them! They were a decent team in their last 2 games and they showed us we have a ways to go. What else can I say?!?!

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Hey Alta, "It's gonna be a nightmare baby"!!!! We all know you don't stroll into JAS with a "green" QB and live to tell about it-this will get ugly.


    I change my prediction: TECH 42 - NT 13

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    Plum, I didn't realize grades were that hard to come by at unt? It must have been the 200 level bowling and archery that blew their minds.

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    Re: UNT has no QB who has thrown a pass in college

    USM would have crushed your team last season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We don't need a great QB,all he has to do is throw it 4 feet within Johnny Quinn.

    Tech88, You're an idiot.

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