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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Hard to believe conservatives would be down with that, given all the complaining from the right over sanctuary cities doing just that.

    So you think they don’t know which cities are sanctuary cities?
    I meant give the immigrants the choice I doubt they know all of the sanctuary cities or where they are located. Not sure if that is what you interpreted or you thought I was talking about someone else.

    As far as conservatives, I don't think it is the ideal solution, but it does help relieve some of the stress at the border. It also gives the sanctuary cities a chance to put their money where their mouth is and stand behind their principles. Certainly most conservatives think that it would be a learning experience for some of these cities that aren't directly on the border or even particularly close to it. Maybe the sanctuary cities can turn it into a learning experience for the conservatives and show them how this crisis is completely manufactured.
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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I meant give the immigrants the choice I doubt they know all of the sanctuary cities or where they are located. Not sure if that is what you interpreted or you thought I was talking about someone else.

    As far as conservatives, I don't think it is the ideal solution, but it does help relieve some of the stress at the border. It also gives the sanctuary cities a chance to put their money where their mouth is and stand behind their principles. Certainly most conservatives think that it would be a learning experience for some of these cities that aren't directly on the border or even particularly close to it. Maybe the sanctuary cities can turn it into a learning experience for the conservatives and show them how this crisis is completely manufactured.
    First of all, I think most sanctuary city mayors are fine “taking them”. Their policies on immigration enforcement, though, are predicated on the basis that immigrants are more likely to behave as active members of a community (report crimes, educate their children, be healthy) if they don’t fear deportation. Plus the law enforcement can focus enforcement resources on violent crimes rather than enforcing laws that have minimal impact on the safety and health of their population.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Immigrants have nothing to worry about. It’s the illegals we should all have a problem excusing. Why do leftists, liberals, socialists, and whatever you consider yourself conflate the two?

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Immigrants have nothing to worry about. It’s the illegals we should all have a problem excusing. Why do leftists, liberals, socialists, and whatever you consider yourself conflate the two?
    An immigrant whose status from legal to illegal is the same person even if their status changes.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    An immigrant whose status from legal to illegal is the same person even if their status changes.

    If a person buys a car instead of carjacking a car is still the same person, even if their status changes.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    If a person buys a car instead of carjacking a car is still the same person, even if their status changes.
    But we aren’t taking about carjacking, are we?

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Turns out the sanctuary cities want them. Backfire.
    No they don't! You actually believe what you hear from the liberal politicos?
    I can guarantee you the citizens don't want them squatting all over their cities.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    But we aren’t taking about carjacking, are we?
    But it is doing something legally vs illegally.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    First of all, I think most sanctuary city mayors are fine “taking them”. Their policies on immigration enforcement, though, are predicated on the basis that immigrants are more likely to behave as active members of a community (report crimes, educate their children, be healthy) if they don’t fear deportation. Plus the law enforcement can focus enforcement resources on violent crimes rather than enforcing laws that have minimal impact on the safety and health of their population.
    Agreed, although they seem to exceed that mandate. I'm actually ok with them not cracking down on random illegal immigrants or even not turning over non- violent offenders. When they refuse to cooperate even for violent offenders it becomes more of a problem.
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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    Agreed, although they seem to exceed that mandate. I'm actually ok with them not cracking down on random illegal immigrants or even not turning over non- violent offenders. When they refuse to cooperate even for violent offenders it becomes more of a problem.
    Or.....Congress could just fix the whole immigration system so that it works efficiently.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Or.....Congress could just fix the whole immigration system so that it works efficiently.
    That would be ideal. I would love to focus on that. I just don't have any faith that any of them are capable of actually doing it.
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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Or.....Congress could just fix the whole immigration system so that it works efficiently.
    What would the fix look like?

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    What would the fix look like?
    A good start would be that granting immigration to an individual be based on the individual's merit, as most countries do. Canada, e.g. Sadly, as the world is today, do not permit Muslims to immigrate to our country and bring their problems here. Tough stance, I realize, but the safety of American citizens trumps "fairness."

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    A good start would be that granting immigration to an individual be based on the individual's merit, as most countries do. Canada, e.g. Sadly, as the world is today, do not permit Muslims to immigrate to our country and bring their problems here. Tough stance, I realize, but the safety of American citizens trumps "fairness."
    So no relatives of citizens, just merit? No people fleeing persecution?

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