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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    i agree with with most of your last post SPINOZA. Just not their "do nothing record" part but still most of your post. It's just that some of what they have done, you and some of which I, just don't agree with. But I wouldn't say "do nothing".

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    I debated on not posting this one. But I thought NAH... it's fair game. Heck, it probably deserves it's own thread. I think I will go and find the Foley thread and post it there as well. I will warn you there is some pretty graphic sick language that this DEM Webb wrote in his novel. This guy is toast!


    ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS

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    ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
    Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET

    Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage sex scenes.



    The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:

    WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD

    The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning Women

    · Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.

    · Many excellent books about the United States military and wartime service accomplish their purposes, and even win awards, without systematically demeaning women, and without dehumanizing women, men and even children.

    · Webb’s novels disturbingly and consistently – indeed, almost uniformly – portray women as servile, subordinate, inept, incompetent, promiscuous, perverted, or some combination of these. In novel after novel, Webb assigns his female characters base, negative characteristics. In thousands of pages of fiction penned by Webb, there are few if any strong, admirable women or positive female role models.

    Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and non-fiction writings?

    · Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest offices in the land:



    – Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.”

    Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333.
    Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34.

    – Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina."

    William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36.
    Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35
    Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 “The South China Sea,”, Section 2

    – A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass. They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. … It was common to see men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it… Quick, grinding voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the hand near his groin…”

    Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396.
    Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396
    Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback) edition, 1983.
    Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 “A Country Such As This,” Chap. 24, Section 1

    – A Sense of Honor: “Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain. Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her husband. She wasn’t bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin frame. If she’d just get laid every now and then she’d mellow out and stop being such a damn witch.” (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home with him and has sex, pp. 188-190)

    Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
    Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164
    Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164
    Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, “Chapter 4:1600”

    – Something to Die For: "[Fogarty] has been thinking of the firm, springy skin and the sweet smells of a young Filipina woman named Maria in whose bed he had spent three nights almost twenty years ago. . . . She was a deliciously bad young woman. . . . On the second night, he had brought her a box of Godiva chocolates . . . . he had awakened to find her in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet with her knees underneath her chin, eating chocolates and counting her rosary beads as she prayed."

    William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 32.
    Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 30
    Quote is from third para in Chapter 2 “South China Sea,”, Part 2

    – Something to Die For: "We're on our way to becoming the world's recreational center, a nation [USA] not to be taken seriously. Where are we still the undisputed leader? Music. Movies. Fast food. Drugs. . . . the billboards fifty years from now as you come over the bridge and stop at the tollbooths outside Manhattan: A smiling beautiful naked woman, and the sign saying AMERICAN ASS IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT."

    William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 199.
    Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 237
    Quote is from para. 38, Chap. 13, Part 1, (five paras before Part 2).

    – Fields of Fire: Snake (the protagonist) sees his mother on the bed: "She looked as if she were carefully attempting to re-create a picture from some long-forgotten men's magazine . . . . She was naked underneath the robe . . . . and the robe fell loosely away, revealing her. Snake shrugged resignedly."

    Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), p. 8
    Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] edition" published in Sept. 2001. p. 9.
    Quote is from paragraphs 18-23, Part 1 “The Best We Have”, Section 1
    (NOTE: Part 1 is after the Prologue)

    – Fields of Fire: "He saw the invitation with every bouncing breast and curved hip. . . . He was thirteen. . . . She was fifteen . . . . In a few moments she drew him to her and he murmured in his quiet voice, 'I am still small.' 'You are large enough,' she answered. And he found he was."

    Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), pp. 211-212
    Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] ed." published in Sept. 2001, pp. 280-81.
    Quote is from paragraphs 8-20, Part 2 “The End of the Pipeline,” Chapter 24

    – A Sense of Honor: “… that is, if you knew who your sister was, Brustein, and if she’d been born with anything between her legs except an asshole, I’d be happy to bring some class to your low-rent name by knocking the bitch up.” (p. 223)

    Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
    Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 223
    Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 223
    Quote is from 17th para in Part 4, “Chapter 7:1930”

    – A Sense of Honor: “You wouldn’t have believed it, Swede. She just dropped her britches and lifted up her skirt and pissed like a man. Didn’t lose a drop, either. Not a drop.” (p. 183)

    Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
    Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 183
    Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 183
    Quote is from 23rd para in Part 3, “Chapter 8: 2300”

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    I guess this is as goiod of place to post this as any.

    http://www.omegaletter.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=5987

    The Inexplicable Sandy Berger

    Perspective on the News
    Thursday, October 26, 2006
    Jack Kinsella - Omega Letter Editor

    It's been a couple of years since the world forgot that a highly-placed member of the Clinton administration stuffed documents relevant to the 9/11 attacks down his pants and sneaked them out of the National Archives.

    I keep waiting for somebody to get curious about what those never-recovered documents had to say. They must have been pretty important for the former National Security Advisor to the United States to steal.
    And then to lie to federal investigators about stealing them afterwards, which is another major federal crime. We are talking a major federal crime.
    It was lying to investigators that sent Martha Stewart to the pokey. It turned out that Stewart lied to investigators about a stock transaction worth $40,000 -- play money to billionaire Stewart.
    And the action Stewart was convicting of lying about wasn't even illegal. Martha went to jail for the lie, not the crime she lied about.
    Lewis "Scooter" Libby was the Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney and one of the most important policy-makers in the Bush administration.
    He was indicted by a federal grand jury and resigned in disgrace. The grand jury indicted him for lying under oath about his involvement in the leaking of the name of CIA employee Valerie Plame.
    Libby wasn't the leak. And we now know that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald KNEW Libby wasn't the leaker before he even called Libby to testify. And Fitzgerald also knew that the 'crime' being covered up wasn't a crime at all.
    But Libby remains under federal indictment on charges of lying to investigators about a crime that was never committed by an investigator who knew he was not guilty when he began the investigation.
    So lying to federal investigators is, as I said, a big deal in Washington. Lying to investigators put President Clinton in the dock at the Senate and put the country through the agony of the impeachment proceedings.
    It was the lie that put Clinton there, not the 'crime' he was covering up. His political supporters forgave him the crime, dismissing it as something 'everybody lies about'.
    But Clinton lost his law license in his home state, the highest rebuke possible in the legal profession. He was convicted of lying to a grand jury and lost the civil suit brought against him by Paula Jones.
    Despite Clinton's continuing popularity among Democrats, Clinton will never enjoy the post-presidential career he'd hoped for. He will be forever tarnished, popular, but polarizing.
    Bill Clinton is living a politician's nightmare; he will always be remembered for the worst thing he ever did.
    Sandy Berger used his position of trust as a former Cabinet official to steal highly-classified documents from the National Archives.
    He was so startled by the documents he discovered that he actually stuffed them down his pants and walked out with them.
    It is important to keep in mind what Berger was doing in the National Archives. He was assigned to review documents relevant to the September 11 attacks and report back to the 9/11 investigating committee.
    The documents Berger took — each copy of the millennium report is said to be in the range of 15 to 30 pages — were highly secret. They were classified at what is known as the "code word" level, which is the government's highest tier of secrecy.
    Berger homed in on a single document: the so-called "after-action report" on the Clinton administration's handling of the millennium plot of 1999/2000. Berger is said to have taken multiple copies of the same paper.
    He is also said to have taken those copies on at least two different days.
    There have been no reports that he took any other documents, which suggests that his choice of papers was quite specific, and not the result of simple carelessness.
    So his theft can only be construed as an attempt to alter the historical record on terrorism. And when questioned, he lied to investigators.
    He said he 'inadvertenly' took the papers home.
    "In the course of reviewing over several days thousands of pages of documents on behalf of the Clinton administration in connection with requests by the September 11 commission, I inadvertently took a few documents from the Archives," Berger said in a written statement.
    "When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few documents that I apparently had accidentally discarded."
    When Berger pleaded guilty, he admitted he knowingly hid his handwritten notes in his jacket and pants in order to sneak them out of the Archives. He also admitted he cut up the missing documents with scissors.
    Despite both the crime and the coverup, Berger was fined $50,000.00 plus community service and probation. He served no jail time. Because he pleaded out to a misdemeanor, Berger has no felony conviction on his record.
    His security clearance was only suspended until 2008 -- meaningless to a partisan Democrat during a Republican administration.
    Nobody knows for sure what documents Berger took. We only know what documents Berger admitted to taking.
    And since he STOLE them in the first place, what logic is there in declaring the case 'closed' on Berger's word?
    Finally, two years after the fact, and after the administration has been soundly beaten with the 9/11 Commission's final report (without the stolen and possibly, exclupatory, information) a group of ten House Republicans are wondering, "What did Sandy Berger stuff down his pants?"
    They asked the House Government Reform Committee to determine whether any documents were missing from Clinton administration terrorism records, to review security measures for classified documents and to seek testimony from Berger.
    (It is worthy of noting that not ONE of the Democrats who were calling for Scooter Libby's blood joined them.)
    The request is 'under review' by the House Government Reform Committee. (In other words, it depends on who has the majority in the House -- and on the Committee -- after the mid-term elections.)
    Meanwhile, Scooter Libby is still under indictment. Martha Stewart is a convicted felon.
    But Sandy Berger is hosting fund-raising dinners for political races, doing cable TV appearances, and advising political campaigns.
    In two years, he can cash in on his political favors and count on a prominent role in any subsequent Democratic administration. (Berger was a senior advisor to the Kerry campaign when the story broke, and Kerry was rumored to have offered him Secretary of State.)
    It is inexplicable that Berger remains such a high roller on the national political scene. How did he manage to do it? And seemingly, get away with it?
    The case is all but forgotten. The Bush administration couldn't protect Scooter Libby.
    All her popularity and money couldn't protect Martha Stewart. But somebody was able to protect Sandy Berger. It is Orwellian. Who HAS that kind of power?
    I don't think we'll know the answer to THAT question until we get the answer to the first one. "What DID Sandy Berger stuff down his pants?"

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    How many Americans haven't died in Iraq now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aubunique View Post
    How many Americans haven't died in Iraq now?

    Again, go back to bed Aub.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by aubunique View Post
    How many Americans haven't died in Iraq now?
    Over 2800.

    Some other numbers....since we invaded Iraq, over 900,000 Iraqis have fled to other countries and over 600,000 have died.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    I think I just saw B. Clinton's name in that article about 50 times. Why are some still blaming him for everything?

    Short synapsis on past history:

    GW wins election 2000.
    GW begins vacation at Ranch 2000. Nothing is corrected, nothing is done.
    9/11 happens. GW emerges from Ranch wearing cowboy hat and pistol
    Fear ensues.
    Blame is laid on Clinton.
    Fear is used to continue winning elections.

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Now this is funny!


    WAL-MART says critic Sen. John Edwards sought PlayStation 3 -- at WAL-MART!

    Edwards denies Wal-Mart's claim that he asked for Playstation 3


    By MARCUS KABEL
    AP Business Writer



    Last Updated:November 16. 2006 7:56PM
    Published: November 16. 2006 7:56PM

    Wal-Mart Stores Inc. claimed Thursday that a prominent critic, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, asked his local Wal-Mart store for help in getting a hot new Sony PlayStation 3 - a claim the potential 2008 presidential candidate denied.

    Edwards took part in a Wednesday conference call with union-led activists and criticized the world's largest retailer. The same day, Wal-Mart said, an Edwards staff member asked a Raleigh, N.C., electronics department manager to obtain a PS3 for the ex-senator's family.

    Through a spokeswoman, Edwards said no such request was made.

    "Elizabeth and I don't shop at Wal-Mart. We haven't been in a Wal-Mart in years. We instructed no one to contact Wal-Mart on our behalf," Edwards said in an e-mail sent by spokeswoman Kim Rubey.

    Wal-Mart spokesman David Tovar wouldn't name the person who purportedly called on Edwards' behalf. A company statement accused Edwards of not wanting to wait his turn.

    "While the rest of America's working families are waiting patiently in line, Sen. Edwards wants to cut to the front," the Wal-Mart statement said.

    After Wal-Mart this summer hired Edelman executive Leslie Dach as its public relations director and put him on the company's executive team, analysts said the retailer would likely become more aggressive toward its critics.

    Edwards, the Democrats' vice-presidential candidate in 2004, spoke Wednesday to supporters of union-backed WakeUpWalMart.com on a conference call launching the group's holiday season campaign to pressure Wal-Mart for better labor standards.

    In the call, he repeated a story about his son Jack disapproving of a classmate buying sneakers at Wal-Mart. "If a 6-year-old can figure it out, America can definitely figure this out," Edwards said.

    Previously, Edwards has appeared at WakeUpWalMart rallies.

    WakeUpWalMart said Wal-Mart had made a false accusation and asked the retailer to apologize to Edwards.

    "Apparently Wal-Mart is so desperate to try and stop the American public's demand for corporate responsibility that Wal-Mart is now even willing to make stuff up in order to try and salvage its declining public image," campaign director Paul Blank said.

    http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs..../APF/611162631


    And now the obvious and peculiar denial/lie.

    Edwards Acknowledges Wal-Mart Gaffe
    Nov 16 11:23 PM US/Eastern

    By MARCUS KABEL
    AP Business Writer
    Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said Thursday that a staff member for former Sen.



    John Edwards _ a vocal critic of the retailer _ asked his local Wal- Mart store for help in getting the potential 2008 presidential candidate a Sony PlayStation 3. Edwards said a volunteer did so by mistake.
    Edwards told The Associated Press that the volunteer "feels terrible" about seeking the game unit at Wal-Mart a day after his boss criticized the company, saying it doesn't treat its employees fairly.
    "My wife, Elizabeth, wanted to get a Playstation3 for my young children. She mentioned it in front of one of my staff people," Edwards said. "That staff person mentioned it in front of a volunteer who said he would make an effort to get one. He was making an effort to go get one for himself.
    "Elizabeth and I knew nothing about this. He feels terrible about this. He made a mistake, and he knows he should not have used my name," Edwards said.
    Edwards said the volunteer was "a young kid" unaware of what he called flawed Wal-Mart policies. He called the Wal-Mart statement an effort to divert attention from its own problems.
    After Wal-Mart this summer hired Edelman executive Leslie Dach as its public relations director and put him on the company's executive team, analysts said the retailer would likely become more aggressive toward its critics.
    Wal-Mart had noted in a news release Thursday that on the same day Edwards was criticizing the company in a conference call with union- backed activists, the volunteer staff member had asked a Raleigh, N.C., electronics department manager to obtain a PS3 for the ex- senator's family.
    From Wal-Mart headquarters in Bentonville, Ark., company spokesman David Tovar said the person who called left a voicemail at the Raleigh store and identified himself as an Edwards staff member. When the manager returned the call, the staff member again identified himself as working for Edwards, and Wal-Mart said it confirmed that with Edwards' office.
    The retailer's news release accused Edwards of not wanting to wait his turn.
    "While the rest of America's working families are waiting patiently in line, Senator Edwards wants to cut to the front," the Wal-Mart statement said.
    The PlayStation 3 console is set to go on sale Friday.
    Edwards, the Democrats' vice presidential candidate in 2004, spoke Wednesday to supporters of union-backed WakeUpWalMart.com on a conference call launching the group's holiday season campaign to pressure Wal-Mart for better labor standards.
    In the call, he repeated a story about his son Jack disapproving of a classmate buying sneakers at Wal-Mart. "If a 6-year-old can figure it out, America can definitely figure this out," Edwards said.
    Previously, Edwards has appeared at WakeUpWalMart rallies. ___
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    Democrats shopped Foley story to papers

    By Christina Bellantoni
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    December 12, 2006


    Democratic campaign operatives pushed newspapers to write about then-Rep. Mark Foley's e-mails to teenage pages in the hope that a scandal would emerge before the midterm elections, according to a House ethics report.
    The findings were bolstered when an aide to Rep. Rahm Emanuel, Illinois Democrat, said the congressman also knew about the e-mails, which were dubbed "inappropriate" by the ethics panel. Mr. Emanuel, who was chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) when Mr. Foley's sex scandal broke in late September, had denied knowledge of the Florida Republican's e-mails


    For full story:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...3555-4731r.htm

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    And yet another.

    Report Says Berger Hid Archive Documents
    Dec 20, 7:56 PM (ET)

    By LARRY MARGASAK

    (AP) National Security Adviser Sandy Berger briefs reporters at the White House in this 1998 file photo....



    WASHINGTON (AP) - President Clinton's national security adviser removed classified documents from the National Archives, hid them under a construction trailer and later tried to find the trash collector to retrieve them, the agency's internal watchdog said Wednesday.
    The report was issued more than a year after Sandy Berger pleaded guilty and received a criminal sentence for removing the documents. Berger took the documents in the fall of 2003 while working to prepare himself and Clinton administration witnesses for testimony to the Sept. 11 commission. Berger was authorized as the Clinton administration's representative to make sure the commission got the correct classified materials.


    For full story link to below.
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061221/D8M4TNQ80.html
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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    In 2004, John Kerry proposed increaaing the armed forces by 40,000 soldiers. W slammed this proposal as unneccesary and counter-productive.... Two years later, W has proposed increasing the armed forces by 50,000 soldiers when even as close as 6 months ago, he refused to increase the size of the military.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/20/...oop-increases/
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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by daybreaker2 View Post
    In 2004, John Kerry proposed increaaing the armed forces by 40,000 soldiers. W slammed this proposal as unneccesary and counter-productive.... Two years later, W has proposed increasing the armed forces by 50,000 soldiers when even as close as 6 months ago, he refused to increase the size of the military.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/20/...oop-increases/
    You know what they say about a blind squirrel. Well, even Kerry can be right once a decade.

    BTW, this story still hasn't made CNN even though it has been posted for days on all other media outlets.


    Inspector General Says Former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger Hid Classified Docs

    Thursday, December 21, 2006


    WASHINGTON — President Clinton's national security adviser removed classified documents from the National Archives, hid them under a construction trailer and later tried to find the trash collector to retrieve them, the agency's internal watchdog said Wednesday.
    The report was issued more than a year after Sandy Berger pleaded guilty and received a criminal sentence for removing the documents.
    Berger took the documents in the fall of 2003 while working to prepare himself and Clinton administration witnesses for testimony to the Sept. 11 commission. Berger was authorized as the Clinton administration's representative to make sure the commission got the correct classified materials.

    For more of the story
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237857,00.html

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    Re: Another Democrat double standard

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    You know what they say about a blind squirrel. Well, even Kerry can be right once a decade.
    Yeah right.......

    Tyler, you know that several Democrats have been stating this don't you? W was too stubborn to admit that we needed to do this.

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