Straight from the horse's mouth.

[duckbillplatty]

"thrown under the bus" seems to be the new catch phrase now. I'm sick of hearing it.

I say we change it to "Send them to play in the Orange Bowl".

[PawDawg]

I say we change it to "Send them to play in the Orange Bowl".

That's would be the OB baybee! HOUR HOUSE! Don't come up in theah talkin' smack!

[champion110]

In the article above, she states that they will be dismissed from the team. They have a Zero Tolerance policy. She agreed with that policy. She simply stated that the university will go by policy.

[PawDawg]

In the article above, she states that they will be dismissed from the team. They have a Zero Tolerance policy. She agreed with that policy. She simply stated that the university will go by policy.

You must not have read it carefully. The zero tolerance is a new policy since the fight. Here is what all three articles quoted her as saying,

''We will not throw any student under the bus for instant restoration of our image or reputation,'' Shalala said. ''I will not eliminate their participation at the university. I will not take away their scholarships.''

[champion110]

You must not have read it carefully. The zero tolerance is a new policy since the fight. Here is what all three articles quoted her as saying,

''We will not throw any student under the bus for instant restoration of our image or reputation,'' Shalala said. ''I will not eliminate their participation at the university. I will not take away their scholarships.''

You are right. I just glanced at the quote around what was bolded. She is wrong and I hope she gets called out for it by the University. I agree what many of you have stated about that university and their athletics.

Nothing political about this. She is just wrong.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

You must not have read it carefully. The zero tolerance is a new policy since the fight. Here is what all three articles quoted her as saying,

''We will not throw any student under the bus for instant restoration of our image or reputation,'' Shalala said. ''I will not eliminate their participation at the university. I will not take away their scholarships.''

Again, you gotta love her playing the race card reference to a public square hanging. What an amazing teacher she had in DC.

"But we will not throw any student under the bus for instant restoration of our image or our reputation. I will not hang them in a public square. I will not eliminate their participation at the university. I will not take away their scholarships."

[Dirtydawg]

Again, you gotta love her playing the race card reference to a public square hanging. What an amazing teacher she had in DC.

"But we will not throw any student under the bus for instant restoration of our image or our reputation. I will not hang them in a public square. I will not eliminate their participation at the university. I will not take away their scholarships."

Actually, I wouldn't consider that a race card statement. Those hangings usually didn't take place in the public square. It was the criminals that were hung in the public square.

[dawg80]

I heard her press conference on ESPN last week and she did say essentially what dawg80 said. She said that she did not watch the film and did not want the facts to influence her decision on the punishment of the involved players. Political affiliations aside, ANY university president who says someting like that in this situation should have his/her head examined and position at the univeristy re-evaluated.

Thank you.

I saw the press conference and heard her say it. I just couldn't remember her exact wording. Thus the paraphrasing I did here.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Actually, I wouldn't consider that a race card statement. Those hangings usually didn't take place in the public square. It was the criminals that were hung in the public square.

I bet it was at least 50-50 but still a good point.

[dhussdawg]

"thrown under the bus" seems to be the new catch phrase now. I'm sick of hearing it.

And maybe I am not understanding "thrown under the bus", but it seems to me that a good example would be the Duke Lacrosse players. They were "thrown under the bus" to make people happy because many had already decided that they were guilty and somebody needed to be punished. "Thrown under the bus" , to me, means that we arent sure if you are guilty, but we are going to act like you are for the sake of pleasing people. This is not "throwing them under the bus", we have proof of what these guys did, and they deserve severe punishment for those who were stomping on people and using their helmets as weapons.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

And maybe I am not understanding "thrown under the bus", but it seems to me that a good example would be the Duke Lacrosse players. They were "thrown under the bus" to make people happy because many had already decided that they were guilty and somebody needed to be punished. "Thrown under the bus" , to me, means that we arent sure if you are guilty, but we are going to act like you are for the sake of pleasing people. This is not "throwing them under the bus", we have proof of what these guys did, and they deserve severe punishment for those who were stomping on people and using their helmets as weapons.

But then she would have to look at the videoclip/facts. Dang, she can not let the facts get in the way of her mind's perceived PC truth. She obviously follows the matra WWSD. What Would Slick Do.

[champion110]

But then she would have to look at the videoclip/facts. Dang, she can not let the facts get in the way of her mind's perceived PC truth. She obviously follows the matra WWSD. What Would Slick Do.

Come on Ray, you know that she could just as easily be following what our current President and Congress have done. That is the reason we are at war right now. I can easily say that it appears Donna is being ridiculously wrong in this matter, but let's not pick and choose who we blame of ignoring the facts.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Come on Ray, you know that she could just as easily be following what our current President and Congress have done. That is the reason we are at war right now. I can easily say that it appears Donna is being ridiculously wrong in this matter, but let's not pick and choose who we blame of ignoring the facts.

Comparing a bunch of spoiled Miami football thugs and the pansy University of Miami President decision to do basically nothing is not at all the same as that of this war for goodness sake. On the other hand a true leader like BUSH, in the same position, probably would have banned football all together at Miami and put those Miami football thugs on the front line on the Iraq war. It just takes conviction and balls. Donna Shalaya has neither. Now Hillary might have done what I just postulated if in charge. She at least has a sac even if her convictions are wrong most of the time. At least she has some.

[champion110]

Comparing a bunch of spoiled Miami football thugs and the pansy University of Miami President decision to do basically nothing is not at all the same as that of this war for goodness sake.

EXACTLY! On that we agree! One is much more important than the other.