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Yep, we're gonna have to bust out of this don't hurt any feelings crap. This is DIA athletics. It is a business. We've tried being polite and we've been ignored. Jim has brought this upon himself. To ease the stress on his family, perhaps he should handle it HIMSELF instead of letting a family member go for him. Think long and hard about that.
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
This is a grass roots effort to replace the man. That means lose his job. Peoples feeling are going to get hurt. The future of Tech athletics is of more importance than Jim Oakes. I don't wish him ill, but I do wish him fired. Banners bring attention to the problem. Bring on more, bigger banners.
So much for the spirit of 88...Originally Posted by touchdown123
Osama: "America said were at war, so it's OK for us to kill their people."
touchdown123: "Oakes said it comes with the territory, so it's OK for us to call him names and hurt his family."
Now, I've never commeted my opinion reguarding Jim's job status, which apparently makes me a an Oakes apologist. Let's get this John Kerry Crystal Clear: this is about the public humiliation of a humanbeing. Not wheather or not anyone thinks JO is suitable for the job. They are two separate issues. In my opinion, the manner in which the American public treats public fugures is very sad. It keeps good people from serving in public office & there is no reason for it. I would like to think Louisiana Tech is above that, but Dirtydawg and others could prove me wrong when we play Nevada. I'm just suggesting there are other ways to communicate disapproval.
I agree with johnnylightning; up until now this has been incredibly civil for the athlitics world. I just wish it could remain that way.
If a sign that said the JOakes on us is tearing Oakes, he needs to grow his skin a little bit. As far as it being humiliating...give me a break. It is a clever sign that shows that we're not happy. There's nothing classless about it. It could be much worse. Were you in Florida during the Zook years?
Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle
C'mon guys it is much more important to not hurt Jims feelings than to save our entire athletic program.
I can't believe this thread. This is a DIA program, and we're talking about a sign that is hurting the feelings our sensitive AD. Give me a break! Ruston is so bush league it is pitiful. No wonder the students leave town every weekend. I can guarantee you that 99% of the other DIA programs in this country are much, much harder on their AD than Tech is.
Like what, Homer ??
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jmo
If George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Frankling had revolted in a civil manner without wanting to hurt King George feelings, we would all be speaking true English, voting for Parliament, and studing those people who dared go against the king back in the 1700's. This country was started by individuals who were displeased with the leadership and choose to do something about it. I am displeased with our athletic department and I am currently doing something about it.
GO, BEAZ !!!!!!!
jmo
I understand and respect your opinion, but I would like to say something.
If you are going to these games for the sole purpose of sporting a sign, then I'd rather you stay at home. If you want to come to the game, SUPPORT THE DAWGS, and during the down periods sport a sign, then you are free to do as you please.
Even Liteman and I had a little disagreement about the sign during the Utah St game. I did NOT want to put the sign up on every timeout or break. Only a couple times a half and after the band played at halftime when nothing was going on. He called me... FROM THE PARKING LOT!!... and asked me to fly the sign while the Dawgs were driving and had scored on Patrick Jackson's 65 yard run, and again while we had a nice drive going (that ended in Champion to Wheller TD). I was way too happy to see the DAWGS doing well then to ruin my great feelings for the sign. For many minutes during that game, Jim didn't cross my mind.... and it was GREAT.
I will not attend these games for the purpose of making my opinion known. I will support my DAWGS and if I feel like expressing my opinon, then I will do so. I hope that others will share a similar opinion.
First off, it's ridiculous to compare banners to terrorism and our fight to get the AD out with the Revolution (I know that wasn't you) Second off, if you want to know about humiliation, try living in Baton Rouge and wearing your Tech gear, flying your Tech flags and generally having it universally known by everyone you're in contact with that you're a Tech fan. Then having all those people look you up after an Idaho loss, or a game they've seen on t.v in which a good portion of the stands are covered in tarps and the rest are sparsely populated. Jim Oakes has no idea what humiliation is compared to what I've gone through the last several years.
grimey, I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I will be there with my signs. I was asking if anybody else wanted one also.
No, Jim doesn't follow me to work and complain about how I do my job. But, if Jim were my client and he had a problem with the product or service I was providing him, he would certainly have a right to discuss this with me and if I didn't respond to complain to those who employ me about my poor service. If his concerns were still not being addressed or rectified, then he would have every right to take the complaint to a more public forum by attempting to influence other customers to take action.
We are all Jim's customers. Many attempts have been made to discuss our concerns with him in private, and for 12 years things have only continued to get worse. Other attempts have been made to complain to those who have specific authority over Jim. These attempts, too, have been unsuccessful. Because these more private attempts to improve the service we are paying him to provide have been ignored FOR TWELVE YEARS, we certainly have a right to take our complaints to a more public forum and to inform and influence other customers.
unfortunately, they've been tried time and time again to no avail. you can blame two people for the situation having to resort to this -- dan reneau and jim oakes.
the bold, the beautiful, theprofessor
This thread is dumb! What do you people that think it is "wrong" think we should do about it that has not been tried already? Maybe we should all sip tea with DR and discuss it. Give me a break. My family was in politics all of my childhood. I sat at tables where people clearly hated my Grandfather. I got dogged in school by teachers that hated my Grandfather. Don't get me wrong, those people were pond scum in my opinion, but I was certainly not clouded for life and I understood it was all part of the territory. The fact that this became personal is a joke itself. There is absolutely no reason to not bring the banner and display it proudly. The wife and kids have to get over it. It is not about them nor is it aimed at them. We can not politely sip tea and continue to watch the avalanch to the toilet of Tech athletics. Please go find how other schools handle things and come back. I think you will think this is very civilized.
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