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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Well, this isn't even a socialism thread, but I don't think people are paying attention anymore. What do you want to talk about next? Abortion? Women's rights? Religion? Intrinsic rights? Global warming?
    I'm going to go for the money......
    I've tried it before, but I could stir no serious interest with so many here AFRAID to even mention little george's recent BIG SPENDING habits and BIG GOVERNMENT proclivity.

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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    Quote Originally Posted by Spinoza View Post
    I'm going to go for the money......
    I've tried it before, but I could stir no serious interest with so many here AFRAID to even mention little george's recent BIG SPENDING habits and BIG GOVERNMENT proclivity.
    Well, that is TOO easy. Fiscal conservatism is a dead idealogy. Being Republican today is about being pro-Religion and anti-Abortion. That is the platform. A congress full of objectivists would spend very little and would never carry a debt. It is altruism, not individualism, which has caused government to expand at the expense of fiscal discipline.
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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Well, that is TOO easy. Fiscal conservatism is a dead idealogy. Being Republican today is about being pro-Religion and anti-Abortion. That is the platform. A congress full of objectivists would spend very little and would never carry a debt. It is altruism, not individualism, which has caused government to expand at the expense of fiscal discipline.
    part of that i agree with:

    it does seem that 'conservatism' has pitched more toward social rather than fiscal aspects. although i am sure that most who call themselves conservative would claim to ascribe to both of those aspects, i think the social side seems more important. and justifiably so since stance on social issues is really what seems to separate political candidates nowadays; the war, abortion, immigration, gun control, death penalty, etc. are what most campaigns focus on...and no matter who is in office a quarter of my pay goes to the government. so why not focus on social issues?

    as far as a congress full of objectivists doing all you said: in a vacuum, perhaps, but in reality, probably not.

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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    I'll second the "frustrating" remark about this thread. It was destined to continue as it did, and just try to settle down. This topic is "hot" and don't try to lose too much sleep over it.

    It's easy to tell how frustrated people got from the first few pages on to the later pages. I doubt anybody changed their mind throughout.

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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    "...a person who is religiously enlightened appears to me to be one who has, to the best of his ability, liberated himself from the fetters of his selfish desires and is preoccupied with thoughts, feelings and aspirations..."-Einstein

    Einstein considered himself to be a deeply religious man.

    Not exactly a glowing endorsment of objectivist ethics...

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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post

    He went back and forth throughout his life. Predictable you picked a letter he wrote when he was in an atheistic sort of phase.

    He has also made quotes that state quite the opposite of that letter.

    It's irrelevant though. You could come up with a letter from Einstein that says 2+2=737 and it wouldn't make it true.

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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

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    He went back and forth throughout his life. Predictable you picked a letter he wrote when he was in an atheistic sort of phase.

    He has also made quotes that state quite the opposite of that letter.

    It's irrelevant though. You could come up with a letter from Einstein that says 2+2=737 and it wouldn't make it true.
    Actually, I just posted this because this letter was in the news today and it reminded me of this discussion. Believing in an intelligent universe and a creator is not the same thing, by the way. That is one of my criticisms of the out-of-context presentation of ID in Expelled. I am interested in studying the "intelligence" aspects of the universe further at some point. I am mostly interested in this because I think it may tell us where humans are going in the next hundred years or so (AI).
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    Re: Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Actually, I just posted this because this letter was in the news today and it reminded me of this discussion. Believing in an intelligent universe and a creator is not the same thing, by the way. That is one of my criticisms of the out-of-context presentation of ID in Expelled. I am interested in studying the "intelligence" aspects of the universe further at some point. I am mostly interested in this because I think it may tell us where humans are going in the next hundred years or so (AI).
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