Bill requiring Ultrasound prior to Abortion before SC House

[Guisslapp]

Your agrument is weak. You support death.

I support LIFE - specifically the woman's life and her ability to choose how to sustain her life.

But we all support death at some level:
What should we do with cancer cells? Kill them?
What should we do to cows, deer, and fish?
What should we do to terrorists?

[tylerdawg]

Can you really not see the difference between a hospital requiring something and the government?

Can you really not see that abortion is death to a child?

[johnnylightnin]

I support LIFE - specifically the woman's life and her ability to choose how to sustain her life.

But we all support death at some level:
What should we do with cancer cells? Kill them?
What should we do to cows, deer, and fish?
What should we do to terrorists?

Oh...the wit is too much...


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off

[Guisslapp]

Happens every day in professional athletics, insurance offices, doctors offices. I haven't read the bill, so I'm not familiar with who would be paying for the ultrasound.

I would probably say, though, that if the state is requiring the ultrasound, they should pay for it. The voters will have to let it be known (through their representatives) how serious they are about this bill.

The bill says that the woman must pay for it. The bill does not make exceptions for rape or incest either.

[tylerdawg]

I support LIFE - specifically the woman's life and her ability to choose how to sustain her life.

But we all support death at some level:
What should we do with cancer cells? Kill them?
What should we do to cows, deer, and fish?
What should we do to terrorists?

Bullcorn.

You want to throw a child in the argument with cancer cells, cows, deer, fish, and terrorists?

[randerizer]

Happens every day in professional athletics, insurance offices, doctors offices. I haven't read the bill, so I'm not familiar with who would be paying for the ultrasound.

Professional athletes got to that point through collective bargaining, meaning they are getting something out of the deal.. An insurance office offers you medical coverage at a rate contingent on your medical history. A doctors office doesn't make you piss in a cup if they are trying to see if you've got an ear infection...

But, if the government you take the tests before you could be employed, and your prospective employer was forced to look at the information?

[randerizer]

Bullcorn.

You want to throw a child in the argument with cancer cells, cows, deer, fish, and terrorists?

A fetus is not a child. A fetus in the case of an unwanted pregnancy might be about the same as a cancer to that patient, only it's much faster growing...

[tylerdawg]

A fetus is not a child. A fetus in the case of an unwanted pregnancy might be about the same as a cancer to that patient, only it's much faster growing...

I didn't know cancer had a heartbeat and brainwaves like a child.

[randerizer]

I didn't know cancer had a heartbeat and brainwaves like a child.

tyler, will you describe what is meant by a brainwave?

[Guisslapp]

I didn't know cancer had a heartbeat and brainwaves like a child.

I didn't know a fetus exercised its faculty of reason like a child.

[tylerdawg]

tyler, will you describe what is meant by a brainwave?

Nope. You get the point just fine.

[Guisslapp]

I didn't know a fetus exercised its faculty of reason like a child.

Or that it is conscious of its own existence for that matter.

[FishingBack]

Good then we can get rid of the EPA and health departments; since everbody always does the "good" thing.

about doctors performing unnecessary procedures.....what percentage of doctors do YOU think do this? 5%, 50%?

[tylerdawg]

I didn't know a fetus exercised its faculty of reason like a child.

The 2 are 1 in the same.

[randerizer]

by the way, the evidence I presented earlier suggested the following:

1) women who undergo abortions suffer depression immediately after the procedure at similar rates that women who give birth undergo depression.
2) women who are pressured against having an abortion undergo depression to extents directly proportional to the amount of pressure. In other words, the added pressure of the ultrasound will have a negative affect on the women.