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    Immigration

    Quote from last week's May Day demonstration:
    "We're not illegals, we're workers."
    Sure.

    The future first lady had me flag down a pickup full of illegals last weekend so I could give them a piece of furniture she wanted to get rid of. I didn't figure out that they were illegals until they pulled up and stared at me. I tried to ask them where I could put it in the back of the truck. They smiled and nodded.

    I propose these solutions:
    - Build the wall, and soon.
    - No loans, no welfare, no perks, no apartments for illegals. Violators should be dealt with, illegals sent home, companies to pay very large fines. Big banks are giving these people mortgages. What? What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill. Well, no more.
    - If you manage to have your baby here, be prepared to ride the bus back. If we have to keep your baby, it's going in to foster care then up for adoption.

    If you want to live here, do the paper work, take your classes, take the test, learn English. Then you can take the oath. And don't forget to pay your administrative tax, er, I mean fee.

    Oh, one more thing. There's nothing like a wait staff full of Mexicans at an Italian restaurant speaking choppy English.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by POTUS View Post
    Quote from last week's May Day demonstration:
    "We're not illegals, we're workers."
    Sure.

    The future first lady had me flag down a pickup full of illegals last weekend so I could give them a piece of furniture she wanted to get rid of. I didn't figure out that they were illegals until they pulled up and stared at me. I tried to ask them where I could put it in the back of the truck. They smiled and nodded.

    I propose these solutions:
    - Build the wall, and soon.
    - No loans, no welfare, no perks, no apartments for illegals. Violators should be dealt with, illegals sent home, companies to pay very large fines. Big banks are giving these people mortgages. What? What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill. Well, no more.
    - If you manage to have your baby here, be prepared to ride the bus back. If we have to keep your baby, it's going in to foster care then up for adoption.

    If you want to live here, do the paper work, take your classes, take the test, learn English. Then you can take the oath. And don't forget to pay your administrative tax, er, I mean fee.

    Oh, one more thing. There's nothing like a wait staff full of Mexicans at an Italian restaurant speaking choppy English.
    re: "What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill."

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by POTUS View Post
    Quote from last week's May Day demonstration:
    "We're not illegals, we're workers."
    Sure.

    The future first lady had me flag down a pickup full of illegals last weekend so I could give them a piece of furniture she wanted to get rid of. I didn't figure out that they were illegals until they pulled up and stared at me. I tried to ask them where I could put it in the back of the truck. They smiled and nodded.

    I propose these solutions:
    - Build the wall, and soon.
    - No loans, no welfare, no perks, no apartments for illegals. Violators should be dealt with, illegals sent home, companies to pay very large fines. Big banks are giving these people mortgages. What? What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill. Well, no more.
    - If you manage to have your baby here, be prepared to ride the bus back. If we have to keep your baby, it's going in to foster care then up for adoption.

    If you want to live here, do the paper work, take your classes, take the test, learn English. Then you can take the oath. And don't forget to pay your administrative tax, er, I mean fee.

    Oh, one more thing. There's nothing like a wait staff full of Mexicans at an Italian restaurant speaking choppy English.

    Not only are they ALL ILLEGAL......
    If they are working anywhere in America, The are ILLEGAL WORKERS!

    Few things in life are so simple.
    They have come here ILLEGALLY.
    They have broken AMERICAN LAW.
    They are CRIMINALS.

    And no matter how much little george or ted kennedy or certain "business interests" may wish to try to sugarcoat their collective ILLEGALITY......
    THEY ARE ALL STILL ILLEGAL.

    As Tyler might say...... PERIOD!
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by POTUS View Post
    Quote from last week's May Day demonstration:
    "We're not illegals, we're workers."
    Sure.

    The future first lady had me flag down a pickup full of illegals last weekend so I could give them a piece of furniture she wanted to get rid of. I didn't figure out that they were illegals until they pulled up and stared at me. I tried to ask them where I could put it in the back of the truck. They smiled and nodded.

    I propose these solutions:
    - Build the wall, and soon.
    - No loans, no welfare, no perks, no apartments for illegals. Violators should be dealt with, illegals sent home, companies to pay very large fines. Big banks are giving these people mortgages. What? What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill. Well, no more.
    - If you manage to have your baby here, be prepared to ride the bus back. If we have to keep your baby, it's going in to foster care then up for adoption.

    If you want to live here, do the paper work, take your classes, take the test, learn English. Then you can take the oath. And don't forget to pay your administrative tax, er, I mean fee.

    Oh, one more thing. There's nothing like a wait staff full of Mexicans at an Italian restaurant speaking choppy English.
    But these particular ILLEGAL CRIMINALS......
    Are not content to merely break AMERICAN LAW......
    They now have the audacity to STOMP ON AMERICAN LAW as they see fit, and DEMAND that America now OWES THEM RIGHTS.

    No one believes in FREE SPEECH more than I do. It just ain't possible.
    And if only 1, or even 151 BILLION LEGAL AMERICANS (or any number of LEGAL AMERICANS) wish to excercise their FREE SPEECH and FREEDOM TO ASSEMBY RIGHTS to plead for ANY ILLEGAL CAUSE...... I remain willing unto death to support their LEGAL RIGHT to do so!

    But I be damned if I will ever extend any American FREEDOM OR RIGHT to ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINAL...... PERIOD!
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by POTUS View Post
    Quote from last week's May Day demonstration:
    "We're not illegals, we're workers."
    Sure.

    The future first lady had me flag down a pickup full of illegals last weekend so I could give them a piece of furniture she wanted to get rid of. I didn't figure out that they were illegals until they pulled up and stared at me. I tried to ask them where I could put it in the back of the truck. They smiled and nodded.

    I propose these solutions:
    - Build the wall, and soon.
    - No loans, no welfare, no perks, no apartments for illegals. Violators should be dealt with, illegals sent home, companies to pay very large fines. Big banks are giving these people mortgages. What? What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill. Well, no more.
    - If you manage to have your baby here, be prepared to ride the bus back. If we have to keep your baby, it's going in to foster care then up for adoption.

    If you want to live here, do the paper work, take your classes, take the test, learn English. Then you can take the oath. And don't forget to pay your administrative tax, er, I mean fee.

    Oh, one more thing. There's nothing like a wait staff full of Mexicans at an Italian restaurant speaking choppy English.
    ILLEGAL ALIENS......
    And the entire spectrum of their supporters......
    From family and friends and clergy, to business interests and politicians......
    Have proffered a number of "reasons" for forgiveness of this horrific ILLEGAL CRIMINAL BEHAVOIR.

    One or my favorites......
    ILLEGAL individuals once engaged in common SEX (somewhere)...... And their unaborted (you better believe it) baby was subsequently born in AMERICA.

    It would be cruel to seperate this mother/parents from their LEGAL baby who was born in America.
    I AGREE!

    But precisely how did this carnal crap/blessed event end up translating into THEY ALL MUST REMAIN IN AMERICA.

    IF THEY ALL WANT TO BE TOGETHER SO BADLY......
    Allow the parent(s) to BUY the baby an American passport good for 25 years...... Prior to shipping the parent(s) back to wherever they came from on our tiny planet before they ILLEGALLY entered our sovereign nation that OWES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ANY ALIEN.

    If at any time over the next 25 years, this baby/kid/teenager/adult prefers to leave the bosom of its loving family and claim LEGAL American citizenship/RIGHTS......
    FINE WITH ME!

    And if the loving parent(s) of any such child wish to do whatever is necessary to also ENTER AMERICA LEGALLY......
    FINE WITH ME!
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by POTUS View Post
    Quote from last week's May Day demonstration:
    "We're not illegals, we're workers."
    Sure.

    The future first lady had me flag down a pickup full of illegals last weekend so I could give them a piece of furniture she wanted to get rid of. I didn't figure out that they were illegals until they pulled up and stared at me. I tried to ask them where I could put it in the back of the truck. They smiled and nodded.

    I propose these solutions:
    - Build the wall, and soon.
    - No loans, no welfare, no perks, no apartments for illegals. Violators should be dealt with, illegals sent home, companies to pay very large fines. Big banks are giving these people mortgages. What? What happens to the loan when they get deported? Federal loan insurance kicks in and John Q. Taxpayer foots the bill. Well, no more.
    - If you manage to have your baby here, be prepared to ride the bus back. If we have to keep your baby, it's going in to foster care then up for adoption.

    If you want to live here, do the paper work, take your classes, take the test, learn English. Then you can take the oath. And don't forget to pay your administrative tax, er, I mean fee.

    Oh, one more thing. There's nothing like a wait staff full of Mexicans at an Italian restaurant speaking choppy English.
    Another common ILLEGAL CRIMAL slice of irrational rhetoric......

    But there are SO MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS in America......
    How could we ever possibly hope to deport ALL OF THEM?

    How about the same way they came here...... 1 to 10 to 100 or more at a time.
    And in the same manner, and with the same swift and logical justice ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS were once dealt, before little george and his merry men began recklessly waving them into America like a traffic cop on he take.

    Interesting story......
    When little george was first being primed to run for governor of Texas by rove..... karl asked him how he would respond if he was ever asked his opinion regarding Roe v. Wade.
    Without a moments hesitation, or a snort of coke, or a swallow of scotch......
    little george reportedly responded......
    I could care less if any Mexican decides to row or wade across the Rio Grande...... As long as they get here are willing to work for damn near nothing...... I'M FOR IT!
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Spinoza View Post


    Another common ILLEGAL CRIMAL slice of irrational rhetoric......

    But there are SO MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS in America......
    How could we ever possibly hope to deport ALL OF THEM?

    How about the same way they came here...... 1 to 10 to 100 or more at a time.
    And in the same manner, and with the same swift and logical justice ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS were once dealt, before little george and his merry men began recklessly waving them into America like a traffic cop on he take.

    Interesting story......
    When little george was first being primed to run for governor of Texas by rove..... karl asked him how he would respond if he was ever asked his opinion regarding Roe v. Wade.
    Without a moments hesitation, or a snort of coke, or a swallow of scotch......
    little george reportedly responded......
    I could care less if any Mexican decides to row or wade across the Rio Grande...... As long as they get here are willing to work for damn near nothing...... I'M FOR IT!

    NEXT......
    On how could we possibly hope to deport all of them.

    The federal government simply places a BOUNTY on the head of EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN.
    EVERY MAN AND WOMAN AND CHILD.
    I suspect that $1,000.00 per head would recieve a ready and substantial response.

    The best case scenario......
    @20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS at $1000.00 per head equals 20 BILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

    This may sound like a good deal of TAXPAYER MONEY......
    Until one considers that the projected cost of the kennedy-mcclain bill/plan represents a minimum of TWO TRILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Spinoza View Post
    NEXT......
    On how could we possibly hope to deport all of them.

    The federal government simply places a BOUNTY on the head of EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN.
    EVERY MAN AND WOMAN AND CHILD.
    I suspect that $1,000.00 per head would recieve a ready and substantial response.

    The best case scenario......
    @20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS at $1000.00 per head equals 20 BILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

    This may sound like a good deal of TAXPAYER MONEY......
    Until one considers that the projected cost of the kennedy-mcclain bill/plan represents a minimum of TWO TRILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
    BUT THIS IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE......

    Every ILLEGAL ALIEN who reports 10 other ILLEGAL ALIENS who are subsequently deported......
    Is fast-tracked to American citizenship......
    As long as they are able to pass all required American citizenship tests, and have NO OTHER CRIMINAL RECORD.

    ERGO......
    1,200,000 to 2,000,000 CURRENT ILLEGAL ALIANS who would be willing to serve American/taxpayer interests well......
    Get rewarded LEGALLY...... And it's do not pass "GO", and go directly home for EVERY OTHER ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINAL

    Would it not be interesting to watch how ILLEGAL SOLIDARITY squirms and slithers with this type of "AMNESTY PLAN" stirring the market mix......
    PLUS A BOUNTY on the head of EVERY ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ALIEN who now feels relatively safe while flaunting AMERICAN LAW!

    Any estimates on how many ILLEGAL ALIENS might be MARCHING PUBLICALY in the next "organized" FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE parade?
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Spinoza View Post
    NEXT......
    On how could we possibly hope to deport all of them.

    The federal government simply places a BOUNTY on the head of EVERY ILLEGAL ALIEN.
    EVERY MAN AND WOMAN AND CHILD.
    I suspect that $1,000.00 per head would recieve a ready and substantial response.

    The best case scenario......
    @20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS at $1000.00 per head equals 20 BILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

    This may sound like a good deal of TAXPAYER MONEY......
    Until one considers that the projected cost of the kennedy-mcclain bill/plan represents a minimum of TWO TRILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
    I agree that illegal immigration is a very pressing issue, and I firmly believe that every last one of them should be shipped back, and the companies and individuals fined for hiring them. I do not see how they could demand American rights and priveleges when they are not even American (i.e. social security, welfare, medicare, public school education). They do not pay taxes, therefore 1) Do not deserve to be here 2) Most CERTAINLY DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES deserve the benefits that WE PAY FOR!!!

    With all that said, you sound a little...hostile.

    p.s. I would report them all for only $100 a head!!!

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by AG_jr View Post
    I agree that illegal immigration is a very pressing issue, and I firmly believe that every last one of them should be shipped back, and the companies and individuals fined for hiring them. I do not see how they could demand American rights and priveleges when they are not even American (i.e. social security, welfare, medicare, public school education). They do not pay taxes, therefore 1) Do not deserve to be here 2) Most CERTAINLY DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES deserve the benefits that WE PAY FOR!!!

    With all that said, you sound a little...hostile.

    p.s. I would report them all for only $100 a head!!!
    "a little...hostiile"......?????
    ABSOLUTELY NOT!

    I AM BOTH RABIDLY AND VEHEMENTLY HOSTILE to this INVASION OF AMERICA by individuals who represent more of a REAL THREAT TO AMERICA than THOUSANDS of terrorist bombs could ever hope for in their wildest, jingoistic, jerkwater, jihadist dreams.

    But just to set my bleeding hearty, liberal arse record srtraight......
    I do not blame THEM!
    And I have no difficulty whatever applauding their individual desperate efforts.

    It may be SAD that these ILLEGAL ALIENS have become substantial enemies of American citizens and American workers and American taxpayers......
    But their current status is REAL, and their impact on honest AMERICAN CITIZENS is FACT!

    PERSONALLY......
    I wish EVERY impoverished and hungry and wanting in any way human being on our tiny planet could have even half of the benefits of LIFE that I have enjoyed,

    But SORRY VIRGINIA...... There just ain't no such Santa Clause.

    Once upon a time in America's history......
    America could afford MISTAKES.
    But this past and relatively brief reality is no longer so much as a furtive fly in any rational American ointment.

    The Decline And Fall Of America IMNHO has already begun with OBVIOUS CERTAINTY.

    With any luck and the natural flow to date of life and death......
    I shall be CONTENTEDLY DEAD before I NEED to learn to speak either Spanish or Chinese to order a pizza of buy $10 per gallon gas.

    I have no NEED TO BE HOSTILE.
    I simply enjoy BRING HOSTILE when some other human being attempts to stick a cheap gun against my rational ribs and presumes I should pretend to be eager to play his silly games.

    HOW ABOUT YOU?
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Spinoza View Post
    I have no NEED TO BE HOSTILE.
    I simply enjoy BRING HOSTILE when some other human being attempts to stick a cheap gun against my rational ribs and presumes I should pretend to be eager to play his silly games.

    HOW ABOUT YOU?
    I am baffled, befuddled, and confused.

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    Enlist for four years and you and your family are automatically granted US Citizenship.
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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Enlist for four years and you and your family are automatically granted US Citizenship.

    But until the time ever comes......
    When YOU are able to rest PROUDLY each night......
    Knowing that 12 to 20 MILLION, mostly uneducated ILLEGAL ALIENS, are serving America in some military capacity......
    Rather than picking fruit, processing pork and working as interpreters at the UN......

    Do you have an opinion about the ILLEGAL part of ILLEGAL ALIEN......
    Or are you just spittin' out crap while playing at not holding your non sequitur nose?
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Immigration

    I saw on a News show last week about how Greeley, CO had one of the highest mortgage foreclosure rates in the country. Remember Greeley is the town where the big Armour meat plants were raided. The town is largely agricultural based and full of (my guess) illegal workers.

    I guess we will pick up the tab on these foreclosures as well.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgbitten View Post
    I guess we will pick up the tab on these foreclosures as well.
    How so ?? These are not student loans you are talking about.

    I asked the same Q to POTUS, and he couldn't/didn't explain it ??

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