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    And Republicans, of all people, should be glad that it does.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It applies to all “persons” and the courts agree. Their are other rights that only apply to citizens, but due process applies to all persons.
    Sounds like something that needs to go back before the supreme court.

    If it's all "persons", we also owe the Japanese, Germans, Vietnamese, Italians, Iraqis, Syrians and many others an explanation. Many were deprived of life without due process.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    And Republicans, of all people, should be glad that it does.
    Meaning what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Sounds like something that needs to go back before the supreme court.

    If it's all "persons", we also owe the Japanese, Germans, Vietnamese, Italians, Iraqis, Syrians and many others an explanation. Many were deprived of life without due process.
    Why do you think W wanted to label captured terrorists “enemy combatants”?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Meaning what?
    Meaning that fetuses in the third trimester are not citizens.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Meaning that fetuses in the third trimester are not citizens.
    Well, maybe if there was some sort of paperwork and process they could go through, you'd be against murdering them.

    Pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Well, maybe if there was some sort of paperwork and process they could go through, you'd be against murdering them.

    Pitiful.
    Now that you have had an opportunity to reconsider, do you still want to say that only citizens get due process rights under the Constitution or do you prefer to read it strictly as “all persons”?

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    Re: Immigration

    And here is the language of the 14th Amendment, which applies the same due process protections of the 5th Amendment against the strates (notice how it distinguishes privilege and immunities owed to citizens and due process for all persons):

    “1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.“

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    Re: Immigration

    Repubs: BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO REFUSE SERVICE BASED ON THEIR FIRMLY HELD BELIEFS!!!

    Business owner: We're not going to serve you.

    Repubs: WE DIDNT MEAN US!!!!

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    Re: Immigration

    I see it the other way. Libs scream for all businesses to serve all people, until it’s someone like Sanders who they disagree with.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I see it the other way. Libs scream for all businesses to serve all people, until it’s someone like Sanders who they disagree with.
    I think an important distinction in the present case is that Sanders is a specific person who committed a specific act. As opposed to a category of people who share an innate characteristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I think an important distinction in the present case is that Sanders is a specific person who committed a specific act. As opposed to a category of people who share an innate characteristic.
    But the black senator is calling for civil disturbance and confrontation in public of a certain political belief system that happens to be mainly white people. She wants this to happen in restaurants, malls, ballgames, work places or wherever. And she doesn't care if families with children are involved.
    This is a hate crime period! And she should be given a cease and desist by our United States AG immediately before somebody gets hurt.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Repubs: BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO REFUSE SERVICE BASED ON THEIR FIRMLY HELD BELIEFS!!!

    Business owner: We're not going to serve you.

    Repubs: WE DIDNT MEAN US!!!!
    I am trying to figure out where the republicans, Sanders, Trump want this restaurant to be shut down, protested or retaliated against for this episode. Can you provide the evidence? I know it is a little early for a court case to be filed here, but surely something substantive could be provided other than random nobodies on Twitter. If you believe Mike Huckabee, he is now claiming that the owner of the Red Hen followed the party after they left. I've seen no corroboration of this but it is out there.

    Again, Sanders left without incident and no one of consequence is calling for retribution. There are plenty of people saying it shouldn't have happened but agree that it could happen and allowable.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    But the black senator is calling for civil disturbance and confrontation in public of a certain political belief system that happens to be mainly white people. She wants this to happen in restaurants, malls, ballgames, work places or wherever. And she doesn't care if families with children are involved.
    This is a hate crime period! And she should be given a cease and desist by our United States AG immediately before somebody gets hurt.

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    If this gets out of control, it will not end well for those starting something like this.

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