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    Re: Immigration

    Trump haters saying "it's for the kids", but 90% of them favor what's really not for kids.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Trump haters saying "it's for the kids", but 90% of them favor what's really not for kids.
    Exactly! Just like I posted above.

    And yet the usual liberal socialist and double standard
    Dems love separating children from the parents even before birth.

    Heck the even vote for
    separating their heads from their bodies.

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    Re: Immigration

    I'm glad this is happening.

    Judicial Watch sues to uncover Obama's secret refugee deals

    Seeks records of sites used for resettlement of Somalis, Syrians


    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/#PBHR84HWTP3cGaBS.99

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I'm glad this is happening.

    Judicial Watch sues to uncover Obama's secret refugee deals

    Seeks records of sites used for resettlement of Somalis, Syrians


    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/#PBHR84HWTP3cGaBS.99
    brown people are EWW!

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    brown people are EWW!
    When "it's about the kids" begins to smell like BS, always go with "it's about the brown people and their kids." People always buy that BS.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    When "it's about the kids" begins to smell like BS, always go with "it's about the brown people and their kids." People always buy that BS.
    If it were about the kids they wouldn't abort their own.

    BTW, I love this idea.

    DNA TESTS FOR BORDER KIDS, PARENTS?

    TONY PERKINS: SESSIONS TALKING TO LAWMAKERS ABOUT USING DNA TESTS TO VERIFY PARENTS OF IMMIGRANT CHILDREN

    12:18 AM 06/20/2018Kerry Picket | Reporter

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions is exploring the possibility of using DNA tests to verify the parentage of illegal alien adults who attempt to cross the southern border with children, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said in a statement Tuesday after interviewing Sessions on his radio show Washington Watch.
    “Sessions is talking to congressional members and is hoping for a legislative fix. The AG wants an immigration policy that is just, fair and enforceable. They talked about making sure that these really are the parents of these kids,” Perkins said.
    He continued, “They are looking at how to use DNA tests in the field to verify they are parents and not traffickers. The reality is if American parents put their kids through what these immigrant parents have done to their kids — they would be charged with child abuse.”
    Around 12,000 children are currently in the custody of Health and Human Services after entering the United States. According to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen, 10,000 of the 12,000 children in the care of HHS arrived in the U.S. as unaccompanied minors.





    “We know for a fact that a lot of adults taking children along are not related to them. [They] could be muggers. They could be human traffickers. It’s a very unhealthy dangerous thing and it needs to end. We need to return to a good lawful system,” Sessions told Perkins on his broadcast.
    The Daily Caller sent an inquiry to the Justice Department asking about Perkins’ assertion regarding the idea for DNA tests in the field and is waiting on a response.


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    Re: Immigration

    This democrats' complaint about immigration is just to take the attention off the IG's report that just came out on the corruption of the FBI. Six top people in the FBI have now either quit or been fired. I'm just glad to see Strzok escorted out of the FBI building today. His lawyer said he wasn't fired, but, when they escort you out, they don't intend on you coming back. As far as the immigration goes, these kids have never had it so good. They get 3 hot meals every day, plus snacks, tv's to watch or play games on, their health checked by doctors and dentist, clothes and shoes, and an air conditioned place to sleep. They're even getting to go to school. They probably think they've found heaven. On Laura Ingraham's show tonight, one of the border patrol agents said that many of the minor young girl's sent alone without parents had rape kits with them. Many of these kids are raped and killed coming across Mexico. This is where the democrats' focus should be, not on humane treatment of these kids at the border. Don't forget about those 2500 kids that were lost under Hussein Obama. That didn't seem to bother any democrats.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    The reality is if American parents put their kids through what these immigrant parents have done to their kids — they would be charged with child abuse.”
    Around 12,000 children are currently in the custody of Health and Human Services after entering the United States. According to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen, 10,000 of the 12,000 children in the care of HHS arrived in the U.S. as unaccompanied minors.



    These are sobering facts.

    We must fix our immigration laws.

    Who would just dump their kids at the border? Wonder how many children have died when parents did this? I saw a story yesterday about one that was just left in the desert alone. Is this OK with the open borders folks? This is cruel.

    I watched Laura Ingram's show tonight and saw pics of where the kids are actually staying, and it was not cages and had no resemblance to what was being shown on TV to propagate angst against Trump and Sessions. The media has no shame. They are liars.






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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
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    These are sobering facts.

    We must fix our immigration laws.

    Who would just dump their kids at the border? Wonder how many children have died when parents did this? I saw a story yesterday about one that was just left in the desert alone. Is this OK with the open borders folks? This is cruel.

    I watched Laura Ingram's show tonight and saw pics of where the kids are actually staying, and it was not cages and had no resemblance to what was being shown on TV to propagate angst against Trump and Sessions. The media has no shame. They are liars.





    We aren’t complaining about the cages - we are objecting to the unnecessary separation of the kids from the families. THAT is the humanitarian issue we are discussing.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    If it were about the kids they wouldn't abort their own.

    BTW, I love this idea.

    DNA TESTS FOR BORDER KIDS, PARENTS?

    TONY PERKINS: SESSIONS TALKING TO LAWMAKERS ABOUT USING DNA TESTS TO VERIFY PARENTS OF IMMIGRANT CHILDREN

    12:18 AM 06/20/2018Kerry Picket | Reporter

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions is exploring the possibility of using DNA tests to verify the parentage of illegal alien adults who attempt to cross the southern border with children, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said in a statement Tuesday after interviewing Sessions on his radio show Washington Watch.
    “Sessions is talking to congressional members and is hoping for a legislative fix. The AG wants an immigration policy that is just, fair and enforceable. They talked about making sure that these really are the parents of these kids,” Perkins said.
    He continued, “They are looking at how to use DNA tests in the field to verify they are parents and not traffickers. The reality is if American parents put their kids through what these immigrant parents have done to their kids — they would be charged with child abuse.”
    Around 12,000 children are currently in the custody of Health and Human Services after entering the United States. According to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsten Nielsen, 10,000 of the 12,000 children in the care of HHS arrived in the U.S. as unaccompanied minors.





    “We know for a fact that a lot of adults taking children along are not related to them. [They] could be muggers. They could be human traffickers. It’s a very unhealthy dangerous thing and it needs to end. We need to return to a good lawful system,” Sessions told Perkins on his broadcast.
    The Daily Caller sent an inquiry to the Justice Department asking about Perkins’ assertion regarding the idea for DNA tests in the field and is waiting on a response.

    Not saying the unaccompanied minors thing is not a problem. And the law that W signed in 2008 that Trump is now complaining about was intended to address the human trafficking aspect of it.

    But that is separate and unrelated to what Trump’s policy is doing - separating kids from their parents. Kids that are not unaccompanied minors but become unaccompanied involuntarily by the government holding their parents and not releasing them on bong for a misdemeanor. For criminally prosecuting all cases instead of using civil deportation proceedings that would keep the family together.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    This democrats' complaint about immigration is just to take the attention off the IG's report that just came out on the corruption of the FBI. Six top people in the FBI have now either quit or been fired. I'm just glad to see Strzok escorted out of the FBI building today. His lawyer said he wasn't fired, but, when they escort you out, they don't intend on you coming back. As far as the immigration goes, these kids have never had it so good. They get 3 hot meals every day, plus snacks, tv's to watch or play games on, their health checked by doctors and dentist, clothes and shoes, and an air conditioned place to sleep. They're even getting to go to school. They probably think they've found heaven. On Laura Ingraham's show tonight, one of the border patrol agents said that many of the minor young girl's sent alone without parents had rape kits with them. Many of these kids are raped and killed coming across Mexico. This is where the democrats' focus should be, not on humane treatment of these kids at the border. Don't forget about those 2500 kids that were lost under Hussein Obama. That didn't seem to bother any democrats.
    Actually the IG report did not conclude that their was corruption. In fact it concluded that political bias did not play into the decisions that were made. It did identify communications that were improper because they create the appearance of impropriety and the FBI Director took the proper steps of firing them.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    We aren’t complaining about the cages - we are objecting to the unnecessary separation of the kids from the families. THAT is the humanitarian issue we are discussing.
    So, it's a humanitarian issue. Gotcha. Pretty sure that if I commit an illegal act and am picked up/arrested in the presence of children who I claim to be my kids...they don't get to hang out with me in the detention center...but nevertheless...

    If you KNOWINGLY intend to commit an illegal act, wouldn't NOT DRAGGING YOUR INNOCENT KIDS ALONG be the "humanitarian" thing to do from the get-go? I have a hard time believing they honestly think dragging the kids into their illegal activity is not a problem.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckK3 View Post
    So, it's a humanitarian issue. Gotcha. Pretty sure that if I commit an illegal act and am picked up/arrested in the presence of children who I claim to be my kids...they don't get to hang out with me in the detention center...but nevertheless...

    If you KNOWINGLY intend to commit an illegal act, wouldn't NOT DRAGGING YOUR INNOCENT KIDS ALONG be the "humanitarian" thing to do from the get-go? I personally believe these folks are not as IGNORANT as the "humanitarian" crowd would have us believe. I believe it is calculated. I believe it is planned. I believe they know FULL WELL what they're doing. They're playing on the sympathy and goodness of a famously compassionate people and country. To be honest, they're playing some of you like a fiddle. Or maybe not...maybe y'all are in cahoots.
    First, it is a misdemeanor - your kids aren’t going to be taken away from you.

    Second, showing up at an official point of entry to request amnesty is not an illegal act. Those families are being separated too.

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    Re: Immigration

    “Doctors and lawyers who have visited the shelters said the facilities were fine, clean and safe, but the kids — who have no idea where their parents are — were hysterical, crying and acting out.

    "The shelters aren't the problem, it's taking kids from their parents that's the problem," said South Texas pediatrician Marsha Griffin who has visited many.

    Alicia Lieberman, who runs the Early Trauma Treatment Network at University of California, San Francisco, said decades of study show early separations can cause permanent emotional damage.

    "Children are biologically programmed to grow best in the care of a parent figure. When that bond is broken through long and unexpected separations with no set timeline for reunion, children respond at the deepest physiological and emotional levels," she said. "Their fear triggers a flood of stress hormones that disrupt neural circuits in the brain, create high levels of anxiety, make them more susceptible to physical and emotional illness, and damage their capacity to manage their emotions, trust people, and focus their attention on age-appropriate activities."

    https://apnews.com/dc0c9a5134d14862ba7c7ad9a811160e

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