Immigration

[maverick]

So what's the hold up?

I suppose he either doesn't think it accomplishes anything or he doesn't want to pay for it--or both.

[T1]

I suppose he either doesn't think it accomplishes anything or he doesn't want to pay for it--or both.

This is what he wrote on June 30th:

I directed the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate this Government-wide response. This includes fulfilling our legal and moral obligation to make sure we appropriately care for unaccompanied children who are apprehended, while taking aggressive steps to surge resources to our Southwest border to deter both adults and children from this dangerous journey, increase capacity for enforcement and removal proceedings, and quickly return unlawful migrants to their home countries.

Nothing yet, so Perry acted.

[maverick]

This is what he wrote on June 30th:

I directed the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate this Government-wide response. This includes fulfilling our legal and moral obligation to make sure we appropriately care for unaccompanied children who are apprehended, while taking aggressive steps to surge resources to our Southwest border to deter both adults and children from this dangerous journey, increase capacity for enforcement and removal proceedings, and quickly return unlawful migrants to their home countries.

Nothing yet, so Perry acted.

It doesn't matter to me which of them enacts a bad plan--it's still a bad plan.

[T1]

It doesn't matter to me which of them enacts a bad plan--it's still a bad plan.

They need to do something. This is sad.

[maverick]

They need to do something. This is sad.

On this, we agree.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Real leaders pay $12 million per month to be a visible presence, to refer and deter, but not detain anyone???
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...men-to-border/

Perry will bill Obama/Feds for the job Hussein wouldn't do. That I promise as Congressman Louie Gohmert, R-Texas is already calling for it.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

National Guard troops on the border will have the same effect that National Guards had in post-Katrina NOLA: a successful deterrent.

And Congressman Louie Gohmert, R-Texas is already calling for Perry to bill Obama, for the job Obama swore to defend, which Perry will do.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

Except two things are wrong here.
1) LNG was not a successful deterrent, it was a successful supplement of the NOPD, sort of. The mission of the LNG under Blanco is completely different and practically opposite of what Perry is doing. LNG had power to detain, arrest, investigate, engage, etc. TNG will not have any of those abilities.

2) Putting the National Guard, along with Reserve and Regular, on the border has been done before. It did nothing to deter illegal immigration, stop any smuggling, or close the border.

Lots of people disagree with your assesment, so let's give it a shot

[JuBru]

Lots of people disagree with your assesment, so let's give it a shot

And lots of those stupid people are why we have Obama and a weak conservative movement. I wouldn't listen to them if I were you.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

And lots of those stupid people also are why we have Obama and a weak conservative movement.

What would you do?

[maverick]

And Congressman Louie Gohmert, R-Texas is already calling for Perry to bill Obama, for the job Obama swore to defend, which Perry will do.

I don't equate referring and deterring with defending.

Regardless of how a bad idea is funded, it's still a bad idea.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

Regardless of how a bad idea is funded, it's still a bad idea.

It's not a bad idea

[JuBru]

What would you do?

Off the top of my head:
Consolidate departments.
Expand remaining/new departments power by deregulation (remove limits).
Increase funding.
Increase technology
Increase personnel 1000x (and double pay and great requirements).
Change training. (Falls into the deregulation.)


And for the sci-fi fan in me, a border fence outfitted with a CWIS at every mile point. But really, a modern Hadrian's Wall. That includes a township/city/whatever every 30 miles along the border and everything that would entail.

(This all includes border with Canada, too.)

I do have an idea for military use, but a lot of the above would have to be implemented first for that to even be a consideration.

It's not a bad idea

Yes it is.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

Off the top of my head:
Consolidate departments.
Expand remaining/new departments power by deregulation (remove limits).
Increase funding.
Increase technology
Increase personnel 1000x (and double pay and great requirements).
Change training. (Falls into the deregulation.)


And for the sci-fi fan in me, a border fence outfitted with a CWIS at every mile point. But really, a modern Hadrian's Wall. That includes a township/city/whatever every 30 miles along the border and everything that would entail.

(This all includes border with Canada, too.)

I do have an idea for military use, but a lot of the above would have to be implemented first for that to even be a consideration.


Yes it is.

So you do nothing now? That's a TERRIBLE plan or lack of one.

[dawg80]

Boots on the ground may slow, but won't stop the illegals from crossing. And it will get expensive. And it may put a few soldiers' lives in danger.

So....I propose minefields and motion-detector activated machine guns.


With warning signs written ONLY in English.