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    Re: Immigration

    Amid racist accusations against President Trump following his tweet-tirade against various progressive Democrats, one of the more outspoken #Squad-members unleashed a torrent of what some might call racist, homophobic, islamophobic claims admonishing the deplorable Americans who refuse to fall in line with new progressive democratic platform..

    Rep Ayanna Pressley (D-MA):


    “We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice.

    We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.

    We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice.

    We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice”

    So, the message is clear - fall in line!

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    Re: Immigration

    No one would call that racist, homophobic or islamaphobic except maybe a confused heterosexual Christian white guy.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No one would call that racist, homophobic or islamaphobic except maybe a confused heterosexual Christian white guy.
    nah.. you can call me whatever you want.. I just don't care anymore.. it doesn't bother me.. Those words have been overused to the extent that they have no meaning.

    But the Congresswoman is definitely saying either believe in our cause or we don't want you. Dems say that they have a very big tent.. apparently not.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No one would call that racist, homophobic or islamaphobic except maybe a confused heterosexual Christian white guy.
    Further confirmation of what an idiot you are.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Further confirmation of what an idiot you are.
    I have a pretty good read on what is going on.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I have a pretty good read on what is going on.
    Nope, you are out of touch. People are sick of brown skin being an excuse for supporting terrorists.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Nope, you are out of touch. People are sick of brown skin being an excuse for supporting terrorists.
    If you are telling me people are racist, I know this. But it is a minority of folks in my experience.

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    Re: Immigration

    I don't know one person that is a racist. Guisslap uses the racist card because that's all he has, just like the rest of his liberal democrat buddies.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    As far as politicians politicizing criminal enforcements of individuals, I have a problem with politicians politicizing the ignoring of laws. They all swore an oath to uphold the law when they took office.
    There are more laws than there are resources to enforce them all. The executive branch has to prioritize. It's called "prosecutorial discretion".

    I'd submit there are much more serious laws than the misdemeanor infraction of undocumented border crossing.

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    Re: Immigration

    Build the wall!

    Surely we don't have to keep repeating all the problems caused by the "misdemeanor infraction" issue of illegal immigration?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No one would call that racist, homophobic or islamaphobic except maybe a confused heterosexual Christian white guy.
    You don't think telling people they should think and act a certain way because of the color of their skin, their religion or their sexuality could be considered racist or homophobic or bigoted? Maybe only an athiest liberal would dismiss those attacks as ok.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    You don't think telling people they should think and act a certain way because of the color of their skin, their religion or their sexuality could be considered racist or homophobic or bigoted? Maybe only an athiest liberal would dismiss those attacks as ok.
    I think the way it is phrased is a call to action rather than saying people do actually think a certain way because of the color of their skin. I think the sentences literally convey the idea that many of these folks do in fact think differently or are at least choosing not to lend their voice in protest (“We don’t need” in this context is understood by everyone to be the same as say that “we need all minorities to speak up against the bigotry that is directed at them”).


    So, no, that is not bigoted/racist/homophobic by any standard. Maybe you don’t know what those words mean?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I think the way it is phrased is a call to action rather than saying people do actually think a certain way because of the color of their skin. I think the sentences literally convey the idea that many of these folks do in fact think differently or are at least choosing not to lend their voice in protest (“We don’t need” in this context is understood by everyone to be the same as say that “we need all minorities to speak up against the bigotry that is directed at them”).


    So, no, that is not bigoted/racist/homophobic by any standard. Maybe you don’t know what those words mean?
    So you're just misinterpreting what she means when she says a brown face without a brown voice. Are you choosing to misinterpret or just on accident?
    "If you’re not prepared to come to that table and represent that voice, don't come"

    She's pretty explicit. You're mental gymnastics notwithstanding, she didn't say a muslim face without a voice, she said a muslim face without a muslim voice etc.

    It's funny that when someone makes no mention of race, they are dog whistling to racists, but when someone directly mentions race you can't see it. It's almost like you see what you want to see and are blind to the things you don't want to see.

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    Re: Immigration

    “We don’t need any more black faces that don’t want to be a brown voice.”

    Direct translation: there are black people who are not wanting to speak up and provide their black perspective and that isn’t helping the situation.

    “Black voice” is a concept from the late 80s early 90s in Critical Race Theory.

    Sample of such discussions:

    https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi...ty_scholarship

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