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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Woof! View Post
    Guess which swing state listed above has the third largest Latino population in the U.S., has the third largest electoral votes, a state in which the Democrats won the last two elections, and is the biggest swing state prize of them all. If Trump loses Florida, he'll have to make up a LOT of ground by winning almost every close state that voted for a Democrat for president for the last two presidential elections. This would be very problematic for a strong candidate and nearly impossible for a weak candidate like Trump. The math does not work for Trump.
    But it's not going to be Trump, he doesn't have enough Republican support to get the nomination. I don't think the others will have to get 40% of the Hispanic vote. I think they only say that because W had 40% when he won.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    And that people don't see that or don't care is as troubling.
    I am perplexed at the popularity that Trump enjoys. I really don't care what he says, I care about what he's done.
    I hear everyone talking about how he's an economic genius. Then let him be an advisor on economic policy. Others say he can't be bought. That's to ignorant to even comment on. This is not the man you want picking a Supreme Court Justice.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by SicemDawgz View Post
    I am perplexed at the popularity that Trump enjoys. I really don't care what he says, I care about what he's done.
    I hear everyone talking about how he's an economic genius. Then let him be an advisor on economic policy. Others say he can't be bought. That's to ignorant to even comment on. This is not the man you want picking a Supreme Court Justice.
    I like the people here that support him, but with nothing good to say about why Trump is so popular, I'll refrain from continuing beyond saying that every single trope, stereotype, meme, etc. about both the right and left is front and center.

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    Re: Immigration

    The GOP doesn't need 40% of the hispanic vote. If they did they would pick Cruz or Rubio or both. They just need all of their base, most independents and the white middle class women vote.

    Besides any combo of Trump/Cruz (added TeaParty and Hisp vote), Trump/Rubio (Fla, women and Hisp), Trump/Carson (Conservatives, blacks and women votes), Trump/ White (Reagan Dems, women and Indy votes) or Trump/Fiorina ( conservative and women votes) type of ticket wins the Presidency hands down all day long. The Socialist Democrat Party doesn't stand a chance unless they steal it.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    The GOP doesn't need 40% of the hispanic vote. If they did they would pick Cruz or Rubio or both. They just need all of their base, most independents and the white middle class women vote.

    Besides any combo of Trump/Cruz (added TeaParty and Hisp vote), Trump/Rubio (Fla, women and Hisp), Trump/Carson (Conservatives, blacks and women votes), Trump/ White (Reagan Dems, women and Indy votes) or Trump/Fiorina ( conservative and women votes) type of ticket wins the Presidency hands down all day long. The Socialist Democrat Party doesn't stand a chance unless they steal it.
    So many wrong-headed comments I don't know where to begin. Just remember, virtually all of the wingnut talking heads were saying Romney was going to win by a landslide. If you think a Trump/Cruz combo has a better chance to win the presidency than Romney, you are more delusional than I thought.

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    Re: Immigration

    Close the borders and make them come legally and this crap wouldn't happen in most cases. Those escaping ISIS out of Syria and Iraq I understand.
    But there are just too many trying to get here and Europe for the free ride and/or their muslim Imam's directed them to go spread their evil ideology to the rest of the world.




    Bodies of 71 migrants found in truck along Austria highway

    Hundreds die as desperate immigrants head for Europe...
    Boats packed with refugees...
    SMUGGLERS BEAT MIGRANTS WHO BEGGED FOR AIR...
    Desperate tide of humanity...


    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/africa...prb/index.html

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Woof! View Post
    So many wrong-headed comments I don't know where to begin. Just remember, virtually all of the wingnut talking heads were saying Romney was going to win by a landslide. If you think a Trump/Cruz combo has a better chance to win the presidency than Romney, you are more delusional than I thought.
    I see you have been reading "Crooks and Liars" again as you get your talking points from that blog, which bleeds ignorance. Their readers are a can of mixed nuts. Admittedly, I know very little about immigration policy. But, I do know that policy or lack of enforcement of existing law that leads to the murder of any American by illegal immigrants is bad policy. Such murder(s) should result in the deportation of all illegal immigrants in order to protect Americans. That sounds harsh, but protecting Americans is all that should matter. Illegal immigrants are, by definition, committing criminal acts.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    I see you have been reading "Crooks and Liars" again as you get your talking points from that blog, which bleeds ignorance. Their readers are a can of mixed nuts. Admittedly, I know very little about immigration policy. But, I do know that policy or lack of enforcement of existing law that leads to the murder of any American by illegal immigrants is bad policy. Such murder(s) should result in the deportation of all illegal immigrants in order to protect Americans. That sounds harsh, but protecting Americans is all that should matter. Illegal immigrants are, by definition, committing criminal acts.
    Uh, this has nothing to do with what I posted. Romney lost the election and that has nothing to do with Crooks and Liars.

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Woof! View Post
    Uh, this has nothing to do with what I posted. Romney lost the election and that has nothing to do with Crooks and Liars.
    The thread is about immigration. Besides, no matter what you or other so called liberals are talking about it is always the same nonsense. It is just anti American and anti traditional American drivel. You just regurgitate nonsense you read on Crooks and Liars. I am just sick and tired of so called liberals bitching and moaning about how they are against what made America the greatest country in the world and are in favor of allowing people who don't produce anything control of our country. You folks just complain and have no solutions to anything you bitch and moan about. We are allowing our country to be given away and so called liberals are responsible for doing it. There is nothing liberating about so called liberalism.

    Rant over

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    The thread is about immigration. Besides, no matter what you or other so called liberals are talking about it is always the same nonsense. It is just anti American and anti traditional American drivel. You just regurgitate nonsense you read on Crooks and Liars. I am just sick and tired of so called liberals bitching and moaning about how they are against what made America the greatest country in the world and are in favor of allowing people who don't produce anything control of our country. You folks just complain and have no solutions to anything you bitch and moan about. We are allowing our country to be given away and so called liberals are responsible for doing it. There is nothing liberating about so called liberalism.

    Rant over

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    Re: Immigration

    Thanks for proving my point

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    Thanks for proving my point
    You proved your point perfectly. I didn't need to say a word.

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    Re: Immigration

    Test question. What was my point?

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    Re: Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    Test question. What was my point?
    Liberals don't like traditional America and are trying to fundamentally transform it. I think they say that out loud though. Our problem as conservatives is that too many people know this and still vote for them. Another problem is that most Republican politicians are not standing up to fight it. I see no way out. We will go bankrupt and split up like the Soviet Union did... which will hurt in the short term, but might turn out to be a good thing in the long run.... back to the Constitution.

    The only way we are going to stop illegal immigration is if they start voting for conservative ideology. It will come to a screaching halt then.

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