libby gets LIFE......

[T_Won]

A chance for democracy to take root in the middle east. A chance for an ally in the middle east to help in strategic positioning for the upcoming war with Iran. A chance for a government in the middle east more focused on peace and prosperity than killing Jews (in Israel). This war was sold to the UN as punishment for Iraq failing to comply with sanctions against weapons of mass destruction, but there were many more reasons than just that. It is way too early to pass judgement on the Iraq war. Nothing has failed yet, regardless of what the politicians tell you (in order to keep their personal power). It will be another 20 years before we know the impact of this war. And yes, it may still fail, but in my opinion, it was well worth the risk. Our biggest obstacle to success is our leadership playing partisan politics... this is much bigger than Nancy Pelosi or George Bush.

Mainstream America determines elections, wheter that be by popular vote or by the electoral college. I feared for our country's sanity when Clinton was elected twice just like you fear for our country's sanity now.

It would be great to get Bin Laden, but it wouldn't take long for the radicals to replace him... maybe minutes or hours. This battle is not against flesh and blood, but principles and philosophies. The best way to change their philosophies is through democracy. The terrorists are not mainstream muslims. If mainstream muslims can become self-sufficient, they will turn on the extremists.

You won't get an argument from me about the spending habits of GWB! He, and his Republican buddies spend like socialists. I would think you would be in favor of all the spending programs and the enlargement of the federal government under his watch?

"GWB is a lot worst President than Jimmy Carter."

You must be young. Jimmy Carter was the worst president in the history of this nation. It isn't even debatable. He did nothing good and to this day, we are still suffering through some of the consequences of his term. In his re-election campaign, he only won 1 state (South Dakota?). Imagine an electoral map with ALL RED... New York, California, Massachusetts and his home state of Georgia... they all voted against Carter.

"Even the village idiot could do a better job than George Bush has done."

We'll never know. I will give him one thing though.... he was not a bad Vice President under Clinton.

[saltydawg]

A chance for democracy to take root in the middle east. A chance for an ally in the middle east to help in strategic positioning for the upcoming war with Iran. A chance for a government in the middle east more focused on peace and prosperity than killing Jews (in Israel). This war was sold to the UN as punishment for Iraq failing to comply with sanctions against weapons of mass destruction, but there were many more reasons than just that. It is way too early to pass judgement on the Iraq war. Nothing has failed yet, regardless of what the politicians tell you (in order to keep their personal power). It will be another 20 years before we know the impact of this war. And yes, it may still fail, but in my opinion, it was well worth the risk. Our biggest obstacle to success is our leadership playing partisan politics... this is much bigger than Nancy Pelosi or George Bush.

Mainstream America determines elections, wheter that be by popular vote or by the electoral college. I feared for our country's sanity when Clinton was elected twice just like you fear for our country's sanity now.

It would be great to get Bin Laden, but it wouldn't take long for the radicals to replace him... maybe minutes or hours. This battle is not against flesh and blood, but principles and philosophies. The best way to change their philosophies is through democracy. The terrorists are not mainstream muslims. If mainstream muslims can become self-sufficient, they will turn on the extremists.

You won't get an argument from me about the spending habits of GWB! He, and his Republican buddies spend like socialists. I would think you would be in favor of all the spending programs and the enlargement of the federal government under his watch?

"GWB is a lot worst President than Jimmy Carter."

You must be young. Jimmy Carter was the worst president in the history of this nation. It isn't even debatable. He did nothing good and to this day, we are still suffering through some of the consequences of his term. In his re-election campaign, he only won 1 state (South Dakota?). Imagine an electoral map with ALL RED... New York, California, Massachusetts and his home state of Georgia... they all voted against Carter.

"Even the village idiot could do a better job than George Bush has done."

We'll never know. I will give him one thing though.... he was not a bad Vice President under Clinton.

There is not going to be an upcoming war with Iran.......gee whiz, we can't even win the one in Iraq going against a few insurgents. Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz through which most of the world's exported petroleum must pass through. You think the oil embargos of the '70s were bad, they would be nothing compared to a total blockage of oil from the Persian Gulf.

Democracy in Iraq??? You have to be kidding. The Iraqis are still in the 14th century. They are just going through the motions of pleasing us while picking our pockets for tens of billions of dollars. . Once we are out, democracy there will be at the point of the gun, not the ballot box. Remember, Saddam had a democracy too. You could vote for anybody as long as it was him.

Keeping drinking that israeli Kool-aid. Sure, the war is not "lost" until we withdraw and that day is fast approaching. Whether we withdraw tomorrow or 20 years from now, the end result will be the same. Query: what is the difference between a lost war and one you cannot win?

The invasion of Iraq was wrong and unnecessary. It was a terrible mistake. Partisan politics has nothing to do with that fact. GWB/Cheney will not admit to their mistakes and don't care if more American blood and money is lost in that quagmire as long as they are in Office. Expect another surge before too long, another "strategy" for Baghdad, another General who thinks he has the answer.

Jimmy Carter might not have been the best President this country has ever had, but he was honest and moral unlike the current one. Jimmy Carter lost his bid for re-election because (1) the oil embargo caused high inflation which caused interest rates to soar which produced a recession and (2) he was unable to formulate a policy to the Iranian revolution which was effective. #1 lasted for the first 3 years of Reagans Presidency and #2 has continued to this day.

As to the contest as to who was the worst President of the 2, George W. Bush takes the honor by a mile. Every policy that he touches goes down hill. The invasion of Iraq was 10 times dumber than any thing that Jimmy Carter every did.