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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Quote Originally Posted by NashVegasRabidK9 View Post
    Ahhhhhh.... I feel better now
    That's and excellent, factual, non-emotional, response. That kind of response gets under their skin much worse than "teeing off" on them with a flury of expletives. Nice work.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Here's my letter:

    Dave,

    The first mistake you make in your article is using one year to characterize a program. In 2005, Louisiana Tech was 7-4 (inlcuding a thumping of a Colt Brennan led Hawaii in Ruston). In 2004, Louisiana Tech was 6-6 while playing Miami, Auburn, and Tennessee. In 2003 and 2004, Tech lost VERY close games to Hawaii (on on the island and one in Ruston). In 2004 and 2005, Tech beat a ranked Fresno team that was favored to win the conference in both seasons. I don't know what you consider "figuring into the equation at the top of the WAC standings", but it seems to me that the 2004 and 2005 Tech teams certianly did that.

    Your second mistake is blaming the "WAC Weaklings" for Hawaii's SOS. With two FCS schools on the schedule, Hawaii fans have to look no further than Herman Frazier when looking for someone to blame for Hawaii's SOS. Further, if Hawaii (a program that has consistently shown an inability to play well off of the island) does not go undefeated, they'll be back in the Hula bowl again. You seem to be counting your chickens before they've hatched.

    Last year was certainly a down year for Louisiana Tech, but it shows an astounding historical ignorance to call Louisiana Tech one of the bottom third programs in the WAC. As far as program strength goes, Louisiana Tech would certinaly rank ahead of Idaho, USU, SJSU, and NMSU. I case could also be made for putting Nevada in that list. Regardless, Tech is clearly a middle-of-the-road program in the WAC. They've achieved this with a much smaller budget than the top of the WAC. But, our budget is getting a boost of 1.5 million in 2008 and an additional 1.5 million in 2009 (3 million over 3 years). If NOTHING ELSE CHANGES, those budgetary increases will put Louisiana Tech's budget, you guessed it, right in the middle of the WAC teams.

    I emplore you to do a little research before writing your columns. Further, the terms like "Little Three" and "rustic Ruston" just make you look petty and childish. Have you ever been to "rustic Ruston"? Or, are you just striving to write an excuse laden homer article? Before you blame the "weaklings" you should point your investigative lens (I certainly hope you're picking up on the sarcasm here) at Herman Frazier and the schedule he put together.

    Thanks,

    Jonathan Nida
    Another nice letter.....very nice. One point however: You mispelled the word "implore" in the last paragraph. I don't typically point out people's spelling mistakes because I'm not the greatest speller either. But when you're trying to convince a snobby journalist from Hawaii that Ruston's not "rustic", or that we're not really from the back woods, mispelling words doesn't help your case. Journalist's notice crap like that.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Thats whatI get for trying to use $5 dollar word.
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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    This has nothing to do with nothing. But I would take the Hawaiin's on a sight seeing trip to the highest point in Louisiana. About fifteen miles down the road from Louisiana Tech. Park at the grave yard, about a quarter mile walk from there. Bet mosquitoes and snakes and chiggers would eat em up so bad they would forget about that pre-game dance. Or actually, might make it more interesing.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Dave's response to my letter:

    Mr. Nida,
    I've been to Ruston twice. In 2003 and 2005. It is indeed rustic, at
    least by Webster's definition: "rustic" means "rural" according to
    the dictionary.
    That's not meant as a slam. The people I met there were all very
    friendly and I have no complaints. I like the country. In my mind,
    calling Ruston rustic is like calling Hawaii sunny.
    I know about Louisiana Tech's fine football tradition; I wrote about
    it for the ESPN college football encyclopedia. It far outshines
    Hawaii's grid history.
    But history is history.
    The article was about now. I don't see LaTech, in a coaching
    transition year, improving enough to make voters think a Hawaii win
    at Ruston (left out rustic this time for you) will be a big deal
    (although I know it is a tough place to play at, I don't think most
    of the voters do). Hey, I've told people around here Hawaii could
    lose that September game if its offensive line isn't molded into
    shape after losing three guys to NFL camps.
    Believe me, we've spilled a lot of ink on Frazier's folly of a
    schedule. This article was more about the combination of the bottom
    third of the WAC

    As for chickens before they hatch, I think you missed the phrase
    about talk of UH running the table being premature. It's a
    possibility, but in my mind not a probability.
    Aloha,
    Dave

    (by the way, Brennan knows the playbook this year, he didn't in 2005).
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    And his to me! (After I had to apologize for an idiot friend of mine in Texas who went way way overboard with his missive to Mr. Reardon. I was so embarrassed and disgusted with him. It did nothing but do the opposite of what we were attempting to point out and made me look and act like an idiot too. I'm sorry for that!)

    No need to apologize, but that is very gracious of you to do so. I've been doing this job for quite a while so I try not to take things personally. I have been to Ruston twice, in 2003 and 2005, and I have nothing but good things to say about the way I was treated by everyone I encountered during both visits. I look forward to coming there again in September.
    I've received many emails from Louisiana Tech fans in the two days since the article. Many are citing the Bulldogs' tradition — I would go as far as to say Louisiana Tech's football tradition far outshines that of Hawaii. But that's not what I'm talking about in the article, nor the fact that LaTech has won the WAC more recently than Hawaii. The piece is about the perceived qualities of the teams now. I'm sure LaTech will be good again, but I'm fairly certain it won't be this year. But I also know UH's players and coaches are not underestimating the Bulldogs, especially considering what happened to them the last time they played in Ruston!
    Aloha,
    Dave Reardon
    (I apologize for not addressing you as Mr. or Ms., but I've met people of both genders with your first name)

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Dave's response to my letter:

    (by the way, Brennan knows the playbook this year, he didn't in 2005).
    Ummm.... the week before this game, he threw for 426 yards and 4 TDs against Boise State.

    The week after he threw for 515 yards and 7 TDs against New Mexico State.



    THE DAWGS HELD HIM TO 236 YARDS AND ONLY 1 TD.

    Don't think that what happened in Ruston wasn't DIRECTLY linked to our Offense playing ball control and our defense basically shutting them down. Don't downplay the Dawgs by giving a crappy excuse saying that Colt didn't know the playbook. The weeks before and after prove that theory wrong.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Doc,
    Try not to let facts get in the way of a good line of B.S.

    The guy obviously didn't base his arguement around the truth.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    One correction to note....the Hula Bowl is the all-star game at the end of the season. The current name of the bowl is the Sheraton Hawai'i Bowl. That should be corrected before any letter is sent.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    It is going to be so fun to beat these guys. If we'd not made the changes we did, I'd have started this season with no hope and no expectations, but I think we'll surprise some people this year! I plan to be there on September 8th to see it happen for the 1st time this season (I expect to win easily - no surpise in game 1)!

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    at least this writer was good enough to respond to reasonable e mails that disagreed with him in a reasonable fashion. as far as calling ruston "rustic", i have to agree with the writer. it is rustic by any standards and is going to be looked at as rustic and rural from any beat writers from honolulu, san jose, fresno, reno, etc.
    as far as his lumping tech in the bottom three of the conference, his reply did not match his original article. he said he was only referring to last year, but the implication definitely seemed more like he was pigeonholing us as a consistent bottom feeder in the conference (with little hope for a quick turnaround) which is just not true. a quick look at the numbers since we joined the conference will show you that. we are about as "middle of the pack" as we could be. either way, he doesn't play or coach so it really doesn't matter what he thinks. i hope hawaii's players and coaches only remember last year and forget what happened to them in '05 over here.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    I love everyone's response to this guy's antics. I don't always like to strike back immediately in haste...... in the words of Jack Nicholson as Gen. Nathan Jessup from "A Few Good Men"....

    "Speak softly and carry an Armored Tank Division"

    I think the 101st Bulldawg Tank Division is gonna blast Colt Brennan and his thugs back to their precious little island.

    We'll let our newly formed squad do the talking on the gridiron.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    It just amazes me that Hawaii is this full of themselves before the season starts. Yes, they should be pretty good this year, but they are putting their cart WAY before the horse. I hope they fall flat on their A@#$. Wouldn't it be great for them to really slip and fall into the bottom 3 this year!

    yeah, you guys should talk. you arent full of yourseves? bringing up past accomplishments as validation and talking about how great you were in the PAST as if it matters and how your are going to beat us. the bottom line is last year, you were in the bottom three and that has way more bearing than what you placed 3 or 4 years ago. i don't feel you are weighing down the WAC, but just accept that your are at the moment a bottom three team. we were there before, you just need to deal with it. at least you didnt go winless like we did in the late 90's. your time will come, but at the moment you are bottom three. and as to guy asking wether or not the the Lsu's and Usc's of the world complaing about the Stanfords, well, they are in a BCS conference so they know if the win their conference they make the big bowls, even if they blow their entire OOC schedule, so its really a moot point. you guys need to calm down, you take these things to personally and seriously, its an offseason article about a GAME! Thank you for your time, and i can't wait for the game.

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Tulsa Pup
    They forget the last time they came to Ruston they got their @$$ kicked.
    Remember last year you guys got your ass kicked.

    it will be hot in September, early in the season, it will be a lot of travel for Hawaii,
    U know we did travel to Bama and I think it was as hot and humid their as it is in Ruston and we played a good game too and they were a lot better than you guys.

    bulldog_in_baton_rouge
    A "problem" that could easily be rectified by a more robust OOC schedule - give me a break - they are whinning already.
    You guys are one of the teams bringing down the WAC. U wanna help actually go to a bowl game once in a while for once.

    johnnylightnin
    The first mistake you make in your article is using one year to characterize a program. In 2005, Louisiana Tech was 7-4 (inlcuding a thumping of a Colt Brennan led Hawaii in Ruston). In 2004, Louisiana Tech was 6-6 while playing Miami, Auburn, and Tennessee. In 2003 and 2004, Tech lost VERY close games to Hawaii (on on the island and one in Ruston). In 2004 and 2005, Tech beat a ranked Fresno team that was favored to win the conference in both seasons. I don't know what you consider "figuring into the equation at the top of the WAC standings", but it seems to me that the 2004 and 2005 Tech teams certianly did that.
    You wanna talk about La-techs record since they joined the WAC allright.
    La-tech is 30-40 since joining the WAC and you guys only won it once in 2001.
    Hawaii has shared it twice.
    2001 7-5 WAC champs but got blown out by Clemson at the Boise bowl.
    2002 4-8
    2003 5-7
    2004 6-6
    2005 7-4 but still no bowl game.
    2006 3-10
    1 season no...no...no, you guys had 2 winning season's and 3 losing seasons with a decent season in 2004.
    You guys wanna help the WAC try and get into a bowl game and represent your conference.

    Your second mistake is blaming the "WAC Weaklings" for Hawaii's SOS. With two FCS schools on the schedule, Hawaii fans have to look no further than Herman Frazier when looking for someone to blame for Hawaii's SOS. Further, if Hawaii (a program that has consistently shown an inability to play well off of the island) does not go undefeated, they'll be back in the Hula bowl again. You seem to be counting your chickens before they've hatched.

    We need the bottom of the WAC that means you guys to have good records that way when we crush you the BCS voters can look at our schedule and say hey UH beat a pretty decent team.
    No...No...We blame Hermie allright but we also Blame ESPN, Karl Benson and all those BCS teams who didn't want to play us at hawaii or at their house like MIchigan who we offered 750 grand plus an ESPN game and also Oregon st., Arizona st. and Washington st. who we offered 1 million and also ESPN bid. There were so many more teams that ducked us but Hermie doesn't want to tell everybody who they are.
    Since Colt Brennan has been here UH has been 5-5 on the road so far.
    By the way it's called the Hawaii bowl...Oh wait you guys don't even know what a bowl game is..Sorry.

    Louisiana Tech would certinaly rank ahead of Idaho, USU, SJSU, and NMSU.
    Funny..Idaho and Utah st. yes but SJSU you are really crazy. Dick Tomey took that team to an 8-4 record plus a bowl game win.
    NMSU this year looks to be the darkhoarse of the WAC with so much talent on the offense.

    Dawgmatic
    Bless your petty little heart. Do you hear anybody in the SEC whine because Vanderbilt or Mississippi State are dragging them down and keeping them out of the BCS? Is USC wailing because Stanford is holding the PAC-10 back? Is Texas weeping salty hot tears over the lack of success at Baylor and Iowa State? Do you hear any team in other conferences crying over teams in their conference keeping them from the BCS? No, my friend, you do not. Nor, should we hear it in the WAC. Did any team in the WAC keep Boise from a BCS bowl last year?
    The reason why they don't complain is because they allways have good schedules made in advance and plus..THERE IN BCS CONF. SO THERE PRETTY MUCH SET ON SCHEDULES EVERY YEAR.
    Dave Readon said those things because Dumbass Herman Fraizer and Karl Benson and ESPN and those teams that ducked us couldn't get a decent schedule for us this year.
    Hermie deserves most of the blame. He had 2 years to fill 3 spots in 07.
    By Jan. of 07 MSU pulled out who told us that they were going to high in advance finally gave us our money and got out of our schedule.PROMBLEM the idiot Fraizer still haden't signed any teams left so that left us with 4 holes to fill.
    Genious of him keeps saying chit like I could fill the schedule by tomorrow or he has BCS teams in his back pocket. He got one great IS THAT IT?
    Numbnuts asked ESPN to help and Benson...Didn't help at all.
    Ask a bunch of BCS teams they said no. The only team that told us they wanted to play us and we could were Louiville and dumbass fraizer said no..WHAT AN IDIOT!!
    So with 3 spots left and spring practice started allready what does he do offer 450 grand to a school called N. Colorado who was the worst 1aa team last year and a school from the east called charleston southern...WTH IS C. SOUTHERN.
    As for Boise's run last year they had 1 1aa team to play and plus they HELLO. They started the season in the top 25 and they beat a good OSU club that beat USC.
    Plus with the New BCS rules a undefeated BSU would've made it either way.

    I would also like to ask you when you last visited Ruston, Louisiana? Have you ever been to Ruston? Have you ever even left your little island?
    Little huh...I bet most of America doesn't even know Ruston Exists.

    LongtimeDawgfan
    WAC conference standings for Tech and Hawaii since Tech joined the conference
    2001 - Tech 1st Hawaii 4th
    2002 - Tech 7th Hawaii 2nd
    2003 - Tech 7th Hawaii 4th
    2004 - Tech 3rd Hawaii 4th
    2005 - Tech 3rd Hawaii 4th
    2006 - Tech 8th Hawaii 2nd
    I would hardly call us a consistant weakling of the WAC.
    LTDF

    Let's look at the overall record and Bowl games which REALLY count for respect in the WAC.
    2001 7-5 WAC champs but got blown out by Clemson at the Boise bowl.
    9-3 record plus a win over #8 BYU.
    2002 4-8
    10-4 finished 2nd in the WAC.
    2003 5-7
    9-5 Went to a Bowl game won that and beat Alabama.
    2004 6-6
    Beat Nwestern and Michigan st. and won our Bowl game again.
    2005 7-4 but still no bowl game.
    5-7
    2006 3-10
    11-3 beating Purdue and Arizona st. and scaring the hell out of Boise and Alabama fans along the way too.
    you guys are 30-40 since joining the WAC in 2001.
    We are 52-27...


    ANYWAY GOODLUCK THIS SEASON!!:icon_wink:

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    Re: Weaklings weigh down WAC

    Quote Originally Posted by UHfanzonly View Post
    johnnylightnin
    The first mistake you make in your article is using one year to characterize a program. In 2005, Louisiana Tech was 7-4 (inlcuding a thumping of a Colt Brennan led Hawaii in Ruston). In 2004, Louisiana Tech was 6-6 while playing Miami, Auburn, and Tennessee. In 2003 and 2004, Tech lost VERY close games to Hawaii (on on the island and one in Ruston). In 2004 and 2005, Tech beat a ranked Fresno team that was favored to win the conference in both seasons. I don't know what you consider "figuring into the equation at the top of the WAC standings", but it seems to me that the 2004 and 2005 Tech teams certianly did that.
    You wanna talk about La-techs record since they joined the WAC allright.
    La-tech is 30-40 since joining the WAC and you guys only won it once in 2001.
    Hawaii has shared it twice.
    2001 7-5 WAC champs but got blown out by Clemson at the Boise bowl.
    2002 4-8
    2003 5-7
    2004 6-6
    2005 7-4 but still no bowl game.
    2006 3-10
    1 season no...no...no, you guys had 2 winning season's and 3 losing seasons with a decent season in 2004.
    You guys wanna help the WAC try and get into a bowl game and represent your conference.

    LongtimeDawgfan
    WAC conference standings for Tech and Hawaii since Tech joined the conference
    2001 - Tech 1st Hawaii 4th
    2002 - Tech 7th Hawaii 2nd
    2003 - Tech 7th Hawaii 4th
    2004 - Tech 3rd Hawaii 4th
    2005 - Tech 3rd Hawaii 4th
    2006 - Tech 8th Hawaii 2nd
    I would hardly call us a consistant weakling of the WAC.
    LTDF

    Let's look at the overall record and Bowl games which REALLY count for respect in the WAC.
    2001 7-5 WAC champs but got blown out by Clemson at the Boise bowl.
    9-3 record plus a win over #8 BYU.
    2002 4-8
    10-4 finished 2nd in the WAC.
    2003 5-7
    9-5 Went to a Bowl game won that and beat Alabama.
    2004 6-6
    Beat Nwestern and Michigan st. and won our Bowl game again.
    2005 7-4 but still no bowl game.
    5-7
    2006 3-10
    11-3 beating Purdue and Arizona st. and scaring the hell out of Boise and Alabama fans along the way too.
    you guys are 30-40 since joining the WAC in 2001.
    We are 52-27...


    ANYWAY GOODLUCK THIS SEASON!!:icon_wink:
    Humm. Well just another fun fact here is that TECH is actually 25-23 (so before this ONE year of 2006, we were 24-16) in WAC games since joining the WAC. While not all that impressive, it does show that we ARE middle of the pack unlike you are trying to paint us.

    We have had terrible (sometimes decent) OOC scheduling for a while now, and that blame has it's place as well.

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