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I root for non-bcs teams all of the time but have some balls and schedule somebody. Boise did it, Utah did it, TCU schedules tough, and what do you know? Those are all teams that people respect. When a computer doesn't even respect you then you know something is wrong. I hope the human voters keep Hawaii right where they are the rest of the season.Originally Posted by Rus-La
BSU, UU, and TCU have the advantage of being in the CONUS... Hawaii is very isolated. And you can't fault Hawaii for NO ONE wanting to go to the islands. They tried, and tried, and tried, and EVERYONE SAID NO.
I think the easiest solution for Hawaii is to make a "satellite campus" in California for their athletes and help... Granted, that won't go over well with Hawaii fans, or anyone else on the islands. But it is the only way they will be able to do what they need and want to do.
Those are just excuses by the Hawaii AD. Its funny how you'll take the word of another school's ad but you won't take the word of your own school's ad. Hawaii has never had trouble luring opponents to the islands and they never will. Also, your notion of an undefeated Hawaii as being comparable to Boise of last year is utterly ridiculous and an insult to Boise. Last year, Boise had Wyoming and Oregon St. on their schedule. Those are games they could have very easily lost. That is a far far cry from Northern Colorado and Charleston Southern.
Not that is matters, but I haven't heard that from their AD... But from the stuff I have heard from their AD, I would trust him more than ours because he doesn't flat out lie, spin, or anything else JO does when he f***s up (which is about 90% of the time)...Those are just excuses by the Hawaii AD. Its funny how you'll take the word of another school's ad but you won't take the word of your own school's ad. Hawaii has never had trouble luring opponents to the islands and they never will. Also, your notion of an undefeated Hawaii as being comparable to Boise of last year is utterly ridiculous and an insult to Boise. Last year, Boise had Wyoming and Oregon St. on their schedule. Those are games they could have very easily lost. That is a far far cry from Northern Colorado and Charleston Southern.
An insult to Boise? Hardly...Wyoming is not a game Boise could have easily of lost. That would be as embarassing as App. State beating Michigan. Oregon St. was good last year, and yes, Boise very well could have lost... But can you blame Hawaii for Washington not pulling out the wins? Can you blame Hawaii for no one coming to the island or wanting them to come to their stadium? People were AFRAID of Hawaii this year... The moment the season was over, everyone was saying "Hawaii is going to be the next Boise St." Nothing has changed between then and now. Everyone has known their schedule is pretty weak with 2 1-aa schools on it. But guess what - they are undefeated, and the BCS still has them ranked pretty good. So gripe all you want, if they get there, they worked for it and deserve it...
You actually believe that??
Depends... yes, I believe people were afraid of them. But no, I don't think anyone had a reason to be.You actually believe that??
Cal won't be moving ahead of Hawai'i in the BC$ rankings anytime soon...31-20 Arizona State.
Hawai'i leads NMSU 23-3 at halftime.
Now all I have to do is dodge 55 points in the second half to win my under 80 bet! Candy from baby!
The reason there are arguments is there is no playoff system. As we all know, college football is about money now. There is way more money to be made with the current bowl system. It's not about deciding wich team is best; it's about fans potentialy being happy with a season if they get a bowl game/win (even it it's the KFC Chicken Gizzard Bowl). I think we all know that smaller colleges can play with the bigger ones. Tech went 9-2 a few years ago and did not get a bowl bid. Is it because they weren't good enough? No. It's because teams like Notre Dame will travel with 50 million fans. (i.e. more money). Why do you think preseason polls exist? Is it because it's a great predictor of the quality of teams? No. It's because it gets "fans" of bigger, richer school interested in the upcoming season. (i.e. again more money)
We all know the only way to decide who's best is to have the teams play each other in a playoff format. But that is not what college football is interested in.
Have you ever wondered why the AP and coaches rank teams? What does it mean? Why is it important? Of course I know the playing field isn't as close as it is in the NFL and that's part of the reason that it's done, but does it still mean anything? Reporters and analysts rank NFL teams in the preseason, but it does it have any meaning? It is in no way taken into account for rankings or standings. In college football they actually use these OPINIONS. In college football, it's "you're number one until proven otherwise" or "you're not a good team until proven otherwise". This part of college football is bullshit. When Auburn went undefeated a few years ago and didn't have a chance to play for the NC, that tells us something is wrong.
People can say that computers objectively select the best teams in the nation, but that's not totally true. The AP and coaches' polls are used in that formula, so those teams blessed with unearned preseason rankings are still a leg up on other teams. We all should just know what we're dealing with here.
AP pulled out...
True true, I stand corrected. However, I'm still sticking with the spirit of my post.
Hey, I've got news for you,
You're Not A Fan!
Yeah, looks like I am pretty good at that... I even used bolded text.
"T"
Hey, I've got news for you,
You're Not A Fan!
Yeah, looks like I am pretty good at that... I even used bolded text.
"T"
You're right, I'm not a fan of your beloved little rainbows. They can sink to the bottom of the pacific for all I care. Giving that team 13 million dollars would be the biggest waste of 13 million dollars ever. Keep them right where they are pollsters!!!!
Afraid that won't happen....the final was 50-13 Hawai'i.
Hawai'i was 14 in both human polls that matter last week. Since USC (7/8 last week), Virginia Tech (10/9), Florida (9/11), and South Florida (12/12) all lost, I expect Hawai'i to be around 11 or 12 this week. It is the points that count though not the ranking, and Hawai'i should gain a good number of points with those teams ahead losing.
Hawai'i could get a bump also since it had no help from the computers last week being only in the Peter Wolfe Top 25. A second or third computer Top 25 would give Hawai'i another big boost in ranking points.
Is Hawaii good enough to win a BCS bowl? I don't think so. I think they'll get smoked by a good team. I think they'll lose one of their remaining games as well. However, if they are undefeated at the end of the season and eligible for a BCS bowl and get the invite, then by all means they'll have earned it. They'll have earned it as much as any 6-6 BCS team that gets a minor bowl invite. If they get the points to make it to a BCS bowl, then by the parameters defined by the BCS system, they deserve it as much as any other team.
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