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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." Thomas Jefferson

    "Act for ourselves and not for others," by forming an "American character wholly free of foreign attachments." George Washington

    And let's get some slaves to work our plantations.

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    The Founder's "intent" has no bearing on what the document actually says... Their personal beliefs are not reflected in the wording of the document...

    "entangling alliances" is what led to WW1... everything else has been open and free...

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    He is not an isolationist. Isolationists believe in restricting free trade.

    He does however believe we should follow the foreign policy philosophy of our Founding Fathers.

    "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none." Thomas Jefferson

    "Act for ourselves and not for others," by forming an "American character wholly free of foreign attachments." George Washington
    You are incorrect. Isolationism is a foreign policy that combines a hands-off military policy with protectionism. He certainly believes in both.
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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    I'm starting to believe that if ever a person like RP becomes President, a lot of the conspiracies surrounding JFK, the MIC, and more will come true with this person...

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    And let's get some slaves to work our plantations.
    Weak. I guess you figure the Bible is obsolete too?

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    Weak. I guess you figure the Bible is obsolete too?
    Some parts of the bible have historical significance but don't have relevance in modern times.

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    You are incorrect. Isolationism is a foreign policy that combines a hands-off military policy with protectionism. He certainly believes in both.
    Quote Originally Posted by .
    "Isolationism is a foreign policy which combines a non-interventionist military policy and a political policy of economic nationalism (protectionism). In other words, it asserts both of the following:
    Non-interventionism - Political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial self-defense.
    Protectionism - There should be legal barriers to control trade and cultural exchange with people in other states.

    Isolationism is not to be confused with the non-interventionist philosophy and foreign policy of the libertarian world view, which espouses unrestricted free trade and freedom of travel for individuals to all countries. This "libertarian isolationist" view is best defined as a policy of nonparticipation in foreign political relations, but free trade and affability to all." - Wikipedia
    Paul does not believe in trade barriers nor free borders.

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rus-La View Post
    The Founder's "intent" has no bearing on what the document actually says... Their personal beliefs are not reflected in the wording of the document...

    "entangling alliances" is what led to WW1... everything else has been open and free...
    Then what caused the Korean War, Vietnam, and the Gulf Wars?

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    Some parts of the bible have historical significance but don't have relevance in modern times.
    Kind of like colonial society?

    Both the Bible and the principals set forth by our Founding Fathers recognize a significant constant . . . human nature.

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    Weak. I guess you figure the Bible is obsolete too?
    I can scarcely think of a more flawed analogy...
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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    Some parts of the bible have historical significance but don't have relevance in modern times.
    Are you suggesting......
    That the inspired word/message of an omnipotent and omnipresent GOD are now somehow lacking "relevance in modern times"?

    Interesting......
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said...... But I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    Then what caused the Korean War, Vietnam, and the Gulf Wars?
    Not entangling alliances if that's what you hint... entangling alliances, to me, mean alliances that are so far buried under things you are literally entangled by it and can't get out... Korea, Vietnam, and the Gulf wars were wars of CHOICE, not because of any alliances... WW2 was because we were attacked... WW1 was because we were "attacked"... BUT, WW1 started because of alliances of no return, hence the sweeping changes to alliance policy by all countries just about post-WW1 in order to prevent another war like that, as it was believed the world could not handle another one (and truthfully, they were right)

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    Re: Fair and Balanced? You decide.

    Wonder if that interstate is still closed in California. Anyone know? If you turn to CNN you sure as hell wouldn't!

    This weekend I was channel surfing for news on NH. Naturally, all the networks are also covering other stories. Well I happened to be watching FOX when live their reporter was on the side of an interstate (100-mile stretch) that had been closed due to the blizzard. She reported that the police were removing barriers as the plows had reopened the highway.

    15 mins later while I was watching CNN they reported that that interstate was closed and what a huge traffic problem it was causing. It had only been 15 mins since it had re-opened, so no big deal. Then about 2 hrs later, again, CNN reports, live from their studio, that the interstate was closed and would be indefinitely. Hah! meantime FOX is showing traffic flowing on that very interstate.

    Small thing you say? Yeah, I suppose. But truthful reporting is truthful reporting.

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