I wasn't going to mention it. :icon_wink:Originally Posted by Dirtydawg
But you are right. He surely is.
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I wasn't going to mention it. :icon_wink:
But you are right. He surely is.
As a Spring 2008 graduate, I didn't have any problems with my graduation. In Congressman Alexander's speech, he told us to go out and get involved in our communities after graduation, and not to just sit around. We need to go out and make things happen, not just sit and want them to happen. Thats what I got out of it. Also, when my name was called, I would have been disappointed if my family and friends did not cheer for me. I was honored to be able to know that they were there to support me as I moved on from one stage of my life to another. I felt very bad for the people who did not have anyone at all cheer for them as they walked across the stage.
I can see both points of view..
although air horns are overkill.
Bottom line is, people just don't care anymore if they're rude and disrespecful. This is not just a local or regional thing, it's everywhere in our society.
One way to solve the problem - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365461,00.html
If I had to make a hypothesis, I'd say it happened when we started pushing for education for anyone who so much as suggested an interest. We've lowered the bar significantly.
Making noise and making noise while the other name is called are two different things. Making noise during the other person's moment is rude, but like minds often become friends and odds are if someone is yelling for a person it is because they are that kind of person too.
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I think the real issue is that, as a society, we are redefining a lot of the things that were previously held as absolute. I would really like someone to come up with a very good reason as to why it is rude to make noise at graduation. To clarify, I understand why it is rude to make noise when someone else's name is being called. BUT, why is the act of making noise to celebrate someone's graduation inherently rude?
People are from all walks of life. In this thread, we've stopped just short of calling these noisemakers bad people. Dawgmatic, you know I like you, but in this case we disagree. Sure, you've put a lot into your child's graduation. However, would you feel more inclined to jump up and shout if you had worked two jobs to support that education and your child was the first in your family's history to achieve a college degree?
I've started this separate post because it really deals with a different topic.
Graduation is going to be packed. You know it now and you knew it before. Parking is going to be nearly impossible. For those who have experienced the handicap dilemma, that is very unfortunate. However, you know that graduation is going to bring a TON of old people. My suggestion to Tech would be a golf cart escort system from a bigger lot designated to handicap parking. Regardless, you know there will be tons of cars parked and there is an easy way to avoid this dilemma. With any luck, basketball and football games will soon be this way too.
Secondly, seat saving seems to be a constant too. My advice is to disregard the seat saving entirely. As a rule of thumb, I'll allow someone to save one seat per person actually there (but only because I'm nice). Otherwise, in a general admission environment, I'll plop right down and make fun of your whiny. If it is clear that the person is there and just went to the bathroom or something, that's different. This has gotten me to the verge of violence, but people really need to get a good understanding of the ideas behind "general admission."
All that said, Captain Obvious has the following solution to both problems, get there early...
...and bring a good book to read while you wait for the show to get started.
AG, you know I love and support Gorillas and I like you too, but how do you know I didn't?
No one knows what I have done or had to do or anything about my life or my son's life and what we had to do or go through to get to that moment in time. I don't discuss it much even with people who really know me. You do what you have to do and I did and I did it alone and I did it for him - everything I have done and done without and worked like a dog for I did for that child. And fortunately I had a good education and a couple of degrees from Tech and some GRIT and some gumption and I was successful and was able to do what many cannot, but no one on this board knows anything about many who post on this board and it's easy to make judgments and jump to conclusions.
Graduation is a time for celebration no matter how hard or how easy it is, there is no doubt about that. My child wasn't the first to graduate in my family. We are very blessed in that regard. We believe in education. My son is a third generation Tech graduate. We believe in Louisiana Tech. And don't you all know I wanted to jump up and down and yell and whoop and holler and rattle a cowbell and scream it to the heavens and the ceiling of the TAC how proud I was of my son? Of course I did. I wept with joy and pride when I saw him walk in, when I saw him handed his degree, when the alma mater was played. But out of respect for the occasion, out of respect for the graduate who came after my son and his family and out of respect for Dr. Reneau (on this occasion) and because he asked I remained seated and kept my big mouth shut. I guess I should have disregarded all of that and whooped it up like an airhorned heathen. Instead I waited until afterwards at his graduation party. But whatever. I don't have another son (or another child), his education at Louisiana Tech is finished and so that is the last graduation I will attend for a very long time. Maybe when his son or daughter graduates from Tech.
I was angry about what I considered rude behavior, I was unhappy that my family could not sit together and in general thought the whole thing was a great big CF from hell.
But I'm not mad anymore - as someone so cavalierly pointed out to me - he got his piece of paper, didn't he? Yes, he did and I am still proud of him and I really don't want to talk about this anymore.
Not inherently rude, it's rude because they have been asked/told to hold their applause/cheers/idiocy until all names have been read. If there was no request, yell away. If they ask or suggest that you cheer, cheer away. As it is, silence is requested, to ignore that request is rude (not just for the reasons above - graduations are long enough and the more the name reader has to pause the longer that thing is going to be - lengthening my time of sitting through that kind of boring ceremony is rude in my book).
Ceremony is the key word. Commencement exercises are no longer ceremonies. The institutions should also offer a rowdy event. Hold it outside with a rock band, beach wear, and BYOB...the works for those who chose to celebrate. For folks who want to the ceremony tradition have a quiet, quick, ceremony complete with air conditioning and boring speaker.
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