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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Is it politically incorrect to believe he is a Muslim?
    No, it's just wrong, because he's not a Muslim. http://my.barackobama.com/page/conte...thesmearshome/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDog View Post
    The main question I have regarding him is this:

    Given Obama's experience, what makes him a better Commander in Chief, and more experienced in foreign policy than John McCain?
    I have another question. Why do we always have to question FOREIGN policy??

    When are we going to find a president, congressman, or other leaders that have a clue about running OUR COUNTRY??

    Quote Originally Posted by randerizer View Post
    Nothing in Obama's experience makes him a better candidate than McCain. But nothing in McCain's experience makes him a better candidate than Obama. Having a longer term as Senator doesn't really mean that much to me. In fact, the past experience of either candidate scares the $h!t out of me.
    I don't know alot about pawlitics.... but this statement rings true with me as well. Good post.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by TechME View Post
    No, it's just wrong, because he's not a Muslim. http://my.barackobama.com/page/conte...thesmearshome/
    I have to admit that deep down I think he is Muslim, and he is hiding it from us for political reasons. I'm certainly not advocating that others believe it. Because of that nagging feeling, I had already read Obama anti-smear site. I also read the site concering the birth certificate. The information provided there did convince me the birth certificate is legitimate, and he is a legitimate candidate for president.

    However, I'm just not certain about him not being a Muslim. I've been called wrong before and will again, but after reading everything I can about the man, I think he is a Muslim. I'm not a Muslim hater either.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    the truth about Barry Hussein Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuQD4-QjV0o

    Note - an F-bomb is dropped at 0:50 mark.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    the truth about Barry Hussein Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuQD4-QjV0o

    Note - an F-bomb is dropped at 0:50 mark.
    haha.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by daybreaker2 View Post
    haha.

    What happens if I dont have a sister? :-P
    You may just have to take one for the team.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Sooner --

    If he were a Muslim 'pretending' to be a Christian....do you know how unbecoming of a Muslim that would be?

    If Obama is a Muslim, he's a horrible one, and the 'bad guys' most certainly would be out for his head because of it.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminaire View Post
    Sooner --

    If he were a Muslim 'pretending' to be a Christian....do you know how unbecoming of a Muslim that would be?

    If Obama is a Muslim, he's a horrible one, and the 'bad guys' most certainly would be out for his head because of it.

    I think he qualifies as an apostate:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/op...12luttwak.html

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    B.O. Stinks!


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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    I think he qualifies as an apostate:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/op...12luttwak.html
    He's definitely being pushed as a cure-all for the disenfranchised.

    And developing quite the cult of personality because of it.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by daybreaker2 View Post
    haha.

    What happens if I dont have a sister? :-P
    Thank God I don't have a sister.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

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    The new president of the Harvard Law Review was somewhat taken aback by the deluge of media coverage that followed hard on the heels of his election. The New York Times ran a “First Black” headline, which probably won’t be the last time that label is affixed to Barack Obama. The twenty-eight-year-old law student says he wasn’t going to run for the office until a black friend talked him into it. “There’s a door to kick down,” the friend argued, “and you’re in a position to kick it down.” The job does give him a great forum, but there’s a trade-off. “I like to read novels, listen to Miles Davis,” he says. “I don’t get to do that anymore. I don’t get dates anymore.” Still, he’s philosophical, even briskly cheerful, about his lost leisure. And that’s because Barack Obama has a game plan: he wants to tackle the quagmire of America’s inner cities. Federal money alone won’t do it, he argues. The deeper problem is that “those communities are unorganized. We need to get more people planning.” For preparation, Harvard Law School is a “perfect place to examine how the power structure works. It gives you a certain language.” When he’s fluent, he’ll be able to translate the language of the streets (“which I can speak”) into the language of the Establishment, and vice versa. The sense of mission derives in part from his experiences in the Third World. He saw brutal poverty while growing up in Singapore with his mother, an anthropologist, and his half-brothers and -sisters in Kenya still live hand to mouth at times. Obama says that his late father’s experience in the Kenyan government left him a broken and bitter man, and he responds warily to the assumption that he himself will run for office. “If I go into politics it should grow out of work I’ve done on the local level, not because I’m some media creation.” Though, as media creations go, he’d be a pretty good one.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminaire View Post
    Sooner --

    If he were a Muslim 'pretending' to be a Christian....do you know how unbecoming of a Muslim that would be?

    If Obama is a Muslim, he's a horrible one, and the 'bad guys' most certainly would be out for his head because of it.
    You are correct; he is not Muslim. He's an agnostic pretending to be a Christian, which in fact makes him a populist. :icon_wink:



    As for the rest of the thread, he has written pretty openly about his faith, and he has made it clear that he got involved with the Christian church because he learned early in his career working to improve the plight of African Americans in Chicago that if you want to be relevant in that community you have to go through the church.

    There are some good, objective articles out there pulling together Obama's comments and writings about his faith and then interpreting them from various theological standpoints (evangelical, moderate, etc.). This is no great mystery. But this belief that he is a threat to US security because his father was born in an Islamic country is silly. It's almost like saying Ravi Zacharias is "pretending" to be a Christian because he was born Hindu.

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminaire View Post
    He's definitely being pushed as a cure-all for the disenfranchised.

    And developing quite the cult of personality because of it.
    "Being pushed," as though it were somehow happening to him passively.

    Is it kind of like the way McCain is "being pushed" as a war hero who has always had America's security as his number one goal in life? :icon_wink:

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    Re: For Obama Supporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian96 View Post
    But this belief that he is a threat to US security because his father was born in an Islamic country is silly. It's almost like saying Ravi Zacharias is "pretending" to be a Christian because he was born Hindu.
    Or like saying that John McCain is really a woman because his mother was one!!! Why are you guys supporting a TRANSVESTITE??!!
    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt

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