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    Re: Obama the elitist?

    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    Nope. Community organizer = Pay Me for Politicking

    http://www.scsuscholars.com/
    pol•i•tick•ing (noun) activity undertaken for political reasons or ends, as campaigning for votes before an election, making speeches, etc., or otherwise promoting oneself or one's policies.
    The Obama campaign is complaining that Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin attacked and insulted “ordinary people” last night by mocking Obama’s job as a “Community Organizer.”

    Uh, no. Ordinary people volunteer. We see a need, join hands with others, and organize ourselves to get the work done. From PTAs to open source software, book clubs to care packages for soldiers, overseas tsunami aid to sports leagues, Americans collectively are the most generous volunteers of any country in the world. Tocqueville’s Democracy in America highlighted that volunteer spirit more than 150 years ago, and our volunteer spirit is still with us today.

    Taking a paid job called “Community Organizer” is just another way to say “pay me for politicking.”

    UPDATE:

    Community Organizers now have organized a website to demand an apology from Govenror Palin. But this is how the Community Organizers describe themselves:
    Though many people are unfamiliar with community organizing, the job is both straightforward and vital: community organizers work with families who are struggling–because of low wages, poor health coverage, unaffordable housing, and other community problems–so that collectively, they can fix those problems and make government respond to their day-to-day concerns. Organizers knock on doors, attend community meetings, visit churches and synagogues and mosques, and work with unions and civic groups and block associations to help ordinary people build power and counter the influence of self-interested insiders and highly paid lobbyists at all levels of government.
    Translation: "Pay me for politicking."

    Obama was influenced by the "father" of community organizing, Saul Alinsky:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

    "Alinsky was a critic of a passive and ineffective mainstream liberalism. In Rules for Radicals, he argued that the most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired ends, and that an intermediate end for radicals should be democracy because of its relative ease to work within to achieve other ends of social justice."
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    Re: Obama the elitist?

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    Perhaps there are parts of the country where mothers hope their children will grow up to be community organizers. The only "community organizer" I knew growing up was Al Sharpton's work in New York City, and he seemed to define his job as going into a bad situation and making sure it got worse, sometimes to the point of murderous arson.

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    Re: Obama the elitist?

    Quote Originally Posted by daybreaker2 View Post
    Two... gee, I couldve sworn it was the Republicans who outright mocked community organizers? Including an entire arena laughing and laughing at the idea that a community organizer does anything. How is that not out of touch and elitist?
    Dude, even Barry can't expalin what a Chicago community organizer does

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXEdf....redstate.com/

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    Re: Obama the elitist?

    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    Dude, even Barry can't expalin what a Chicago community organizer does

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXEdf....redstate.com/
    He was a member of ACORN. Here is a news release concerning ACORN:

    Milwaukee’s election chief on Wednesday turned 32 more voter registration workers in to the district attorney’s office for possible prosecution, saying they tried to submit falsified registration cards.

    That brings to 39 the number of registration workers under scrutiny, and the number could grow, Election Commission Executive Director Sue Edman said. An organization warned the commission staff late Wednesday afternoon about some questionable cards in the latest batch collected by its workers, Edman said.

    All of the workers targeted for investigation were paid employees of two liberal groups running voter registration drives, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and the Community Voters Project…

    …Of the 32 ACORN workers referred Wednesday to Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf, Edman said:

    • Seventeen apparently filled out voter applications and then signed the cards themselves. That involved two to four cards in each case.

    • Twelve submitted cards for individuals who later told ACORN they never filled out an application. That involved one card in each case.

    • One submitted a card for a dead voter. That was the second such case; a Voters Project worker previously submitted a card for a deceased voter.

    • One was apparently making up driver’s license numbers for an unknown number of voters.

    • One submitted about a half-dozen applications for already-registered voters.

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