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    Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...008-09-08.html

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has accepted an invitation from San Francisco’s archbishop to discuss whether she should continue to receive communion at the Catholic Church in the wake of comments she made about abortion.

    San Francisco Archbishop George H. Niederauer said he had received letters and e-mails from “many Catholics” expressing dismay over Pelosi’s remarks, in which she said the matter of when life begins remained controversial within the church. He said many of them questioned whether she should be able to receive communion from the church.

    Pelosi made the remarks in an Aug. 24 interview with “Meet the Press” host Tom Brokaw after Brokaw said that the Catholic Church believes strongly that life begins at conception.


    Her comments have been criticized by several Catholic Church officials, and Niederauer described them as being “in serious conflict” with the church in the Sept. 5 issue of Catholic San Francisco.

    Niederauer concludes that, based on Catholic Church statements, it is up to him as Pelosi’s pastor to address whether she may continue to receive communion. He then invites the Speaker “into a conversation with me about these matters.”

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...008-09-08.html

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has accepted an invitation from San Francisco’s archbishop to discuss whether she should continue to receive communion at the Catholic Church in the wake of comments she made about abortion.

    San Francisco Archbishop George H. Niederauer said he had received letters and e-mails from “many Catholics” expressing dismay over Pelosi’s remarks, in which she said the matter of when life begins remained controversial within the church. He said many of them questioned whether she should be able to receive communion from the church.

    Pelosi made the remarks in an Aug. 24 interview with “Meet the Press” host Tom Brokaw after Brokaw said that the Catholic Church believes strongly that life begins at conception.


    Her comments have been criticized by several Catholic Church officials, and Niederauer described them as being “in serious conflict” with the church in the Sept. 5 issue of Catholic San Francisco.

    Niederauer concludes that, based on Catholic Church statements, it is up to him as Pelosi’s pastor to address whether she may continue to receive communion. He then invites the Speaker “into a conversation with me about these matters.”
    I still cannot believe she said the Catholic Church was still undecided about abortion. What audactiy!

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    I'd poison the wine!
    I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    I'd poison the wine!
    That would be impossible, since it is no longer wine.

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Y'all might be going on the cheap, but the DGH uses wine!
    I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    Y'all might be going on the cheap, but the DGH uses wine!
    I think he means it has been transubstantiated.

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    I think he means it has been transubstantiated.
    Yeah, what he said.

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    Y'all might be going on the cheap, but the DGH uses wine!

    Transubstantiation, great word to describe something that no one understands.

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    I think the Achbishop is just trying to lure Pelosi into the church so they can tie her down and perform an exorcism on her. she is definitely possessed!!!

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    Quote Originally Posted by personofbluecolor View Post
    I think the Achbishop is just trying to lure Pelosi into the church so they can tie her down and perform an exorcism on her. she is definitely possessed!!!

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    and Biden gets his

    http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=29157

    Archbishop Chaput Corrects Senator Biden on Abortion
    9/9/2008
    Archdiocese of Denver

    "Abortion is a foundational issue; it is not an issue like housing policy or the price of foreign oil. It always involves the intentional killing of an innocent life, and it is always, grievously wrong."

    DENVER (Catholic Online) - On September 7, 2008, the nominee of the Democratic party for the Vice Presidency of the United States, Senator Joseph Biden, was interviewed on "Meet the Press by Tom Brokaw. Biden is a professed, practicing Catholic. He, like Speaker Nancy Pelosi before him,responded to the questions concerning his position on the Right to Life by making inaccurate and confusing comments concerning Catholic teaching on the Right to Life life.

    He also demonstrated his lack of understanding of biology, the Natural Law, the separation of Church and State, authentic pluralism and the proper role of Catholic elected officials.Archbishop Charles Chaput, O.F.M. Cap. and Bishop James D. Conley of Denver issued a response to the Catholics of their Diocese. Catholic Online presents it below in its entirety:

    In 2008, although NBC probably didn't intend it, Meet the Press has become a national window on the flawed moral reasoning of some Catholic public servants.On August 24, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, describing herself as an ardent, practicing Catholic, misrepresented the overwhelming body of Catholic teaching against abortion to the show's nationwide audience, while defending her "pro-choice" abortion views. On September 7, Sen. Joseph Biden compounded the problem to the same Meet the Press audience.

    Sen. Biden is a man of distinguished public service. That doesn't excuse poor logic or bad facts.Asked when life begins, Sen. Biden said that, "it's a personal and private issue." But in reality, modern biology knows exactly when human life begins: at the moment of conception. Religion has nothing to do with it. People might argue when human "personhood" begins - though that leads public policy in very dangerous directions - but no one can any longer claim that the beginning of life is a matter of religious opinion.

    Abortion is a foundational issue; it is not an issue like housing policy or the price of foreign oil. It always involves the intentional killing of an innocent life, and it is always, grievously wrong. If, as Sen. Biden said, "I'm prepared as a matter of faith [emphasis added] to accept that life begins at the moment of conception," then he is not merely wrong about the science of new life; he also fails to defend the innocent life he already knows is there.

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    Re: Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion

    http://albertmohler.com/blog.php

    Scroll down (if needed) to the entry entitled "A Private Conviction about Murder?"
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