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    The McCain camp cannot run a truthful ad, even after they have been proven false.

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    Re: There He Goes... Again.

    Obama is waaaaaaay in the lead in the lies spread.

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    Re: There He Goes... Again.

    Closing the Whopper Gap

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...pinion/columns

    By Ruth Marcus
    Monday, September 22, 2008; Page A15

    Obama has descended to similarly scurrilous tactics on the stump and on the air. On immigration, Obama is running a Spanish-language ad that unfairly lumps McCain together with Rush Limbaugh -- and quotes Limbaugh out of context. On health care, Obama misleadingly accuses McCain of wanting to impose a $3.6 trillion tax hike on employer-provided insurance.

    Obama has been furthest out of line, however, on Social Security, stooping to the kind of scare tactics he once derided.

    "If my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would have had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week," Obama said Saturday as he campaigned in that retiree-heavy state. "Millions of families would've been scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers, the secure retirement that every American deserves."

    This is simply false -- even leaving aside the incendiary language about "privatizing" Social Security. As the invaluable FactCheck.org noted, the private account plan suggested by President Bush and backed by McCain would not have applied to anyone born before 1950. It would not have changed benefits by a single penny for current retirees like the nice Florida folks that Obama was trying to rile up. The sensible notion was that workers at or near retirement age should be able to rely on promised benefits and should not be subject to the vicissitudes of short-term market fluctuations.

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    Re: There He Goes... Again.

    Quote Originally Posted by DogtorEvil View Post
    Closing the Whopper Gap

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...pinion/columns

    By Ruth Marcus
    Monday, September 22, 2008; Page A15

    Obama has descended to similarly scurrilous tactics on the stump and on the air. On immigration, Obama is running a Spanish-language ad that unfairly lumps McCain together with Rush Limbaugh -- and quotes Limbaugh out of context. On health care, Obama misleadingly accuses McCain of wanting to impose a $3.6 trillion tax hike on employer-provided insurance.

    Obama has been furthest out of line, however, on Social Security, stooping to the kind of scare tactics he once derided.

    "If my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would have had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week," Obama said Saturday as he campaigned in that retiree-heavy state. "Millions of families would've been scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers, the secure retirement that every American deserves."

    This is simply false -- even leaving aside the incendiary language about "privatizing" Social Security. As the invaluable FactCheck.org noted, the private account plan suggested by President Bush and backed by McCain would not have applied to anyone born before 1950. It would not have changed benefits by a single penny for current retirees like the nice Florida folks that Obama was trying to rile up. The sensible notion was that workers at or near retirement age should be able to rely on promised benefits and should not be subject to the vicissitudes of short-term market fluctuations.
    Well, the Social Security one is just a joke because without it and Medicare, our economy would have a much healthier outlook in the future. Also, if you are in retirement age and have all of your money in the stock market, you either dont know what you are doing or have an appetite for a lot of risk.

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