Why Must Democrats Tell Lie?

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Maybe Manafort is a Democrat, because he has been proven a liar.

He's a lawyer so you probably are correct.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

hard work doesn’t necessarily create market value.

Maybe not in your line of work but in 99.9% it does. Well as a democrat or GOP in congress it doesn't.

[Guisslapp]

Maybe not in your line of work but in 99.9% it does. Well as a democrat or GOP in congress it doesn't.

Work smarter, not harder.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Nice slogan, but it isn’t factual. It isn’t the way our economy works. There is no requirement of hard work and hard work doesn’t necessarily create market value.

Maybe not in your line of work but in 99.9% it does. Well as a democrat or GOP in congress it doesn't.

Work smarter, not harder.

Great but tell that to the men and women working the blue collar and ultra poor jobs. Most of these strictly require hard work and long hours and it creates market value for themselves and their companies. And true capitalism requires hard work and hard work is rewarded.

[brtransplant]

It doesn’t surprise me that you think learning facts is pointless.

Your opinions are just that, opinions. But just like every other typical liberal, you're so full of yourself that you believe that your opinions are facts because they're what you believe.

Nothing you ever say surprises me either. It's usually nothing more than you regurgitating whatever the liberal talking points of the day are, as they've got you totally brainwashed.

It's not too late to join us G-man. There's still time for people like you to turn away from the evil that exists in the corrupt, DC establishment, deep state. They're all going down before this is over, and you won't want to be on the wrong side of this battle once it starts.

[Guisslapp]

Great but tell that to the men and women working the blue collar and ultra poor jobs. Most of these strictly require hard work and long hours and it creates market value for themselves and their companies. And true capitalism requires hard work and hard work is rewarded.

You are basically making my case for me. Why are they poor if they are working hard if capitalism rewards hard work?

[Guisslapp]

Your opinions are just that, opinions. But just like every other typical liberal, you're so full of yourself that you believe that your opinions are facts because they're what you believe.

Nothing you ever say surprises me either. It's usually nothing more than you regurgitating whatever the liberal talking points of the day are, as they've got you totally brainwashed.

It's not too late to join us G-man. There's still time for people like you to turn away from the evil that exists in the corrupt, DC establishment, deep state. They're all going down before this is over, and you won't want to be on the wrong side of this battle once it starts.

Liberals don’t say what I am saying. I am not a socialist. I am more capitalist than you.

[dawg80]

Liberals don’t say what I am saying. I am not a socialist. I am more capitalist than you.

[dawg80]

You are basically making my case for me. Why are they poor if they are working hard if capitalism rewards hard work?

It's not JUST hard work! But if you're a "renter" your whole life then you are simply playing someone's else game.

Capitalism provides everyone an opportunity to move up, to no longer be a "renter." But, one has to make that happen for themselves. Too many lack the wherewithal...but they have the exact same chance(s) as anyone else.

[Guisslapp]

What liberal have you head say that the market values capital over labor?

[JuBru]

What liberal have you head say that the market values capital over labor?

I'm not sure where you are going with this because all of them say that.

[Guisslapp]

I'm not sure where you are going with this because all of them say that.

Then it should be easy for you to find a quote of that.

[JuBru]

Then it should be easy for you to find a quote of that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.8965a088b603
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pelo...ry?id=14696893
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...nt-cut-it.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/o...er-barons.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/o...r-capital.html
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07...-dying-planet/
http://rooseveltinstitute.org/left-behind/
http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/why-is...er-than-labor/
https://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016...s-now-winning/
https://democracyjournal.org/magazin...lobal-economy/
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...great-britain/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-a...b_1127058.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.f367447e210a
https://www.thenation.com/article/in...e-of-our-time/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.dfbb2e983ec0
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_14...-214772-1.html
http://www.dbknews.com/2019/02/14/oc...m-labor-bezos/


I haven't read them yet, but it seems from every description of (former Labor Secretary) Robert Reich's Saving Capitalism and Thomas Picketty's Capitalism in the Twenty-First Century describe it extensively.



Now, don't be so dense to say none of this doesn't apply since none are direct "market values capital over labor" quotes. All of this and more are part of the topic.

[Guisslapp]

Most of the links I clicked of yours are articles that, in discussing income inequality or the growing rich poor gap, cite one of the economists who have focused on the same economic data recognizing shareholders benefitting more from productivity gains than workers, but I am not sure any leader of either party is defining the issue in a way that I am.

I have removed the partisanship from the issue and stated the obvious fact that one must conclude from that data:

The market currently, and has for the past 50 years, valued Capital more than labor.

A market is not something you can blame - it is the aggregate total of society’s value judgments. The market is generally efficient - not wrong. When it is wrong, it corrects usually within a matter of years or less, and those market participants that were valuing it right are rewarded and those participants that were valuing it wrong are damaged as the rest of the market comes to realize the mistake.

The market does not dole out its rewards on the basis of effort, but based on how society values the results of the effort amongst other things, including capital.

Work smarter, not harder.

[FriscoDog]

Well apparently Smollett paid two brothers who were the only persons of interest in the surveillance videos to beat him up. Tried to put it on Trump supporters. Another made up story by leftists. Chicago PD wants really bad to talk with Smollett again.