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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    What does that have to do with anything in this thread?
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    What does that have to do with anything in this thread?
    You're a smart guy. One shouldn't have to spell it out for you.

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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Yes, I am. Which is why I wonder what that story has to do with anything in this thread when it has nothing to do with anything.
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Yes, I am. Which is why I wonder what that story has to do with anything in this thread when it has nothing to do with anything.
    WOW!! Really?? How sad indeed.

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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Have you read anything about them being told to have an abortion? I haven't.

    Have you read anything that said they were told they should just let her die? I haven't.

    So what does this have to do with Democrats being "the party of death"? It is a a huge ass reach to say that because of the circumstances in which she was born that a democrat would just have let her die by not letting her get the care she needed, because that is the ONLY possible way you can even attempt to make an argument. But no, none of that happened.
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    What does that have to do with anything in this thread?
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    Yes, I am. Which is why I wonder what that story has to do with anything in this thread when it has nothing to do with anything.
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    Have you read anything about them being told to have an abortion? I haven't.

    Have you read anything that said they were told they should just let her die? I haven't.

    So what does this have to do with Democrats being "the party of death"? It is a a huge ass reach to say that because of the circumstances in which she was born that a democrat would just have let her die by not letting her get the care she needed, because that is the ONLY possible way you can even attempt to make an argument. But no, none of that happened.
    Democrats are pro Abortion/killing babies and also they and their party platform pushed late term abortions through as well. And pushed to have us/taxpayers pay for them. They would be just fine with this baby having been aborted and aborted late term since it's just a group of cells right?? BS!!! Now do you get it?? How dense are you at times? It belongs here BIG TIME!!! It's who the majority of Dems are as it's their platform and majority of their candidates beliefs. Period! These socialist DEMS can say all of the touchy feely things they want but the bottom line is they have created this baby killing society and yes late term baby killing society as well. They are the 'party of death' as the Vatican states.
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Really? That's your reasoning? That has not the first thing to do with the story.
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Authorities: Abortion Doctors Charged With Murder

    December 30, 2011 11:53 AM

    ELKTON, Md. (AP) –Two out-of-state doctors who traveled to Maryland to perform late-term abortions have been arrested and charged with multiple counts of murder under the state’s viable fetus law, authorities said.
    Dr. Steven Brigham, of Voorhees, N.J., was taken into custody Wednesday night and is being held in the Camden County jail, according to police in Elkton, Md. Authorities also arrested Dr. Nicola Riley in Salt Lake City and she is in jail in Utah. Each is awaiting an extradition hearing.

    The two doctors were indicted by a grand jury after a 16-month investigation, police said.
    The investigation began in August 2010 after a botched procedure at Brigham’s Elkton clinic. An 18-year-old woman who was 21 weeks pregnant had her uterus ruptured and her bowel injured, and rather than call 911, Brigham and Riley drove her to a nearby hospital, where both were uncooperative and Brigham refused to give his name, authorities said.
    A search of the clinic after the botched abortion revealed a freezer with 35 late-term fetuses inside, including one believed to have been aborted at 36 weeks, authorities said.

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/12/30/authorities-abortion-doctors-charged-with-murder/




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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Have you read anything about them being told to have an abortion? I haven't.

    Have you read anything that said they were told they should just let her die? I haven't.

    So what does this have to do with Democrats being "the party of death"? It is a a huge ass reach to say that because of the circumstances in which she was born that a democrat would just have let her die by not letting her get the care she needed, because that is the ONLY possible way you can even attempt to make an argument. But no, none of that happened.
    if nothing else, it shows that abortion should be illegal after 24 weeks. why would you abort when you could deliver the baby and try to save his life? abortion at that stage is negligent homicide at minimum.

    so if democrats are in favor of the "right" to abort after 24 weeks, then they are the party of death.

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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasbob View Post
    if nothing else, it shows that abortion should be illegal after 24 weeks. why would you abort when you could deliver the baby and try to save his life? abortion at that stage is negligent homicide at minimum.

    so if democrats are in favor of the "right" to abort after 24 weeks, then they are the party of death.
    Democrats being the "party of death" (which really, are no more for death than the Republicans or anyone else) does not cause someone to get an abortion or not. Democrats didn't call for the woman to get an abortion or kill the baby in the first case. Democrats weren't pushing for the doctors to break the law in the second case. Democrats don't call for the wholesale aborting of babies. Democrats only allow there to be a choice to a point.
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Democrats being the "party of death" (which really, are no more for death than the Republicans or anyone else) does not cause someone to get an abortion or not. Democrats didn't call for the woman to get an abortion or kill the baby in the first case. Democrats weren't pushing for the doctors to break the law in the second case. Democrats don't call for the wholesale aborting of babies. Democrats only allow there to be a choice to a point.
    You are so wrong and in so many ways that it's not even worth the argument with you.

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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    You are so wrong and in so many ways that it's not even worth the argument with you.
    No I'm not. Can you prove Democrats told or encouraged the lady in the first story to abort or kill her baby; or the doctors to break the law? If not (you can't), then it has nothing to do with Democrats.

    Now, I know you're probably thinking that because the Democrats set up the conditions to allow this to happen (by being pro-choice), they are at fault. But you'll be wrong there too. Again, it being an option doesn't force anyone to do it. Those who were going to do it, are going to do it no matter the capacity of legality.
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    No I'm not. Can you prove Democrats told or encouraged the lady in the first story to abort or kill her baby; or the doctors to break the law? If not (you can't), then it has nothing to do with Democrats.

    Now, I know you're probably thinking that because the Democrats set up the conditions to allow this to happen (by being pro-choice), they are at fault. But you'll be wrong there too. Again, it being an option doesn't force anyone to do it. Those who were going to do it, are going to do it no matter the capacity of legality.
    if they are in favor of allowing homicide, as a party platform, then you would be justified in calling them the "party of death," no?

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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasbob View Post
    if they are in favor of allowing homicide, as a party platform, then you would be justified in calling them the "party of death," no?
    No.

    What does that have to do with what I'm talking about though? It is point of fact that neither of the previous two cases TT has posted has anything to do with democrats being the "party of death".
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    Re: Vatican:Democrats are 'party of death'

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    No.

    What does that have to do with what I'm talking about though? It is point of fact that neither of the previous two cases TT has posted has anything to do with democrats being the "party of death".
    the original post in this thread was about some high-ranking catholic official calling them the "party of death" (this is the reason for the quotes). of course, that's just the headline of the story, which is a little misleading because the quote didn't go exactly like that. but that's not really important.

    then tyler posted a story about a child being born at 24 weeks and you asked how that was relevant. this shows that either you lack critical thinking skills or you just wanted to pick an argument. it is obviously relevant to the discussion for the reasons i stated. if you're looking for the conversation to stay on the exact topic of the original post, posted over 3 years ago, you are on the wrong forum.

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