MNF.... what NOT to do

[DocMarvin362]

in a Football game with play-calling and time management.

I know that Mike Singletary is trying to install a tough mentality in his team, but running the ball into the pile on 2nd, and 4th down is just DUMB.

You have 3 chances to THROW for a TD and don't have to worry about picking your linemen up and spiking the ball and crap. THROW the ball and you have 3 chances to score....

Running the ball gave you only 2 chances AND, once again, you have to fight the clock in getting your linemen up, getting the ball to the Official, and lining up right for the spike hopefully with enough time to run another play.

Oh, and then on 4th and Goal from the 2, you put in your second string RB, pack in the defense with 7 on the LOS and run it into the middle of the pile and don't even get close.

That's just CRAZY... I hope that Mike learns from this and puts the ball in his QB's hands in future situations.

[dhussdawg]

in a Football game with play-calling and time management.

I know that Mike Singletary is trying to install a tough mentality in his team, but running the ball into the pile on 2nd, and 4th down is just DUMB.

You have 3 chances to THROW for a TD and don't have to worry about picking your linemen up and spiking the ball and crap. THROW the ball and you have 3 chances to score....

Running the ball gave you only 2 chances AND, once again, you have to fight the clock in getting your linemen up, getting the ball to the Official, and lining up right for the spike hopefully with enough time to run another play.

Oh, and then on 4th and Goal from the 2, you put in your second string RB, pack in the defense with 7 on the LOS and run it into the middle of the pile and don't even get close.

That's just CRAZY... I hope that Mike learns from this and puts the ball in his QB's hands in future situations.

Yep that last call was the worst in history I believe. And what the hell happened when it took them 10 seconds to spike the ball when they got down to the 2?

[DogtorEvil]

racists

;P

[DogtorEvil]

seriously though, I was surprised at the final call. Made little sense.

Warner looks like the Warner of 'the greatest show on turf' again

[StrayDawg]

I don't want to blame anything on Singletary, because I'm afraid that he might hunt me down and stare me to death.

But, the arguments between him and Martz on the sideline make it obvious that communication isn't great in SF.

The thing I had trouble with was how the QB handled it. With about 30 seconds to go, he was directing traffic and made Isaac Bruce move from the right halfback position to the left halfback position before hiking the ball and snapping it. Why does it matter if he's on the left or right, as long as he is in the backfield? And, that wasted about 5-7 seconds by itself. The coaches deserve some of the blame, but I thought the QB handled it very badly.

[DocMarvin362]

Don't recall the play, but I would say that he was sliding protection.

[dhussdawg]

Don't recall the play, but I would say that he was sliding protection.

It was the spike play, no need to slide protection. He just panicked and lost his head for 10 seconds.

[StrayDawg]

Don't recall the play, but I would say that he was sliding protection.

Doc,

My bad. My previous post said, "before hiking the ball and snapping it" when it should have said, "before hiking the ball and spiking it". Sorry for the confusion. Bud, dhuss is right, it was a spike play so I don't understand why he wasted that much time before spiking the ball. The QB didn't handle clock management well in the last minute, but maybe that goes back to your point about coaching. They should have him prepared.

[dhussdawg]

Doc,

My bad. My previous post said, "before hiking the ball and snapping it" when it should have said, "before hiking the ball and spiking it". Sorry for the confusion. Bud, dhuss is right, it was a spike play so I don't understand why he wasted that much time before spiking the ball. The QB didn't handle clock management well in the last minute, but maybe that goes back to your point about coaching. They should have him prepared.

I dont think it has to do with coaching, IMO, not for the spike play at least. Any QB from HS on up should understand the spike play. The only way coaching could be involved is if they didnt tell everybody where they needed to line up beforehand, which might have been the case. Miscommunication could lead to not enough men on the line of scrimmage, the coach's job might be to make sure that people know where to line up. As far as making Ike Bruce shift in the backfield, that was just dumb. He was off the line of scrimmage regardless, so it didnt matter.

[bdub]

there was a bit on sportcenter last night and the coaches were talking about how the spot and challenge screwed them up....they called the FB dive play cause the ball was spotted on the 1 yard line....then they review it and they say its on the 2.5 yd line and the clock will start on the ref's signal....that is Mike Martz's excuse anyway.

[StrayDawg]

Yeah, I can see that, but he's also blaming the refs. It's never a good idea to pass the buck, and this might get him fined.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8785114?MSNHPHMA

[GonzoDawg]

I dont think it has to do with coaching, IMO, not for the spike play at least. Any QB from HS on up should understand the spike play. The only way coaching could be involved is if they didnt tell everybody where they needed to line up beforehand, which might have been the case. Miscommunication could lead to not enough men on the line of scrimmage, the coach's job might be to make sure that people know where to line up. As far as making Ike Bruce shift in the backfield, that was just dumb. He was off the line of scrimmage regardless, so it didnt matter.

I know where they can find a better QB.:icon_wink: