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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal&Ken View Post
    Please read my post. If it was simple a judge drops the case and it is over. Why is anyone even looking at it? I don't think anything will ever come of it. Since you are the authority, please post your link to say that you are correct.
    Who is looking at it besides bloggers and a handful of reporters? Somebody has to "look at" any petition that is filed in court, regardless of its merit. Petitions on this issue have been submitted and dismissed in courts all over the country. That is to say, several judges have dropped the case, but petitions continue to be filed in various jurisdictions. That just proves the accessibility of the judicial system, not the merits of the petition.

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Y'all are aware that similar suits were filed questioning McCain's citizenship, aren't you?

    http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/laws...s-citizenship/

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian96 View Post
    Y'all are aware that similar suits were filed questioning McCain's citizenship, aren't you?

    http://patterico.com/2008/03/13/laws...s-citizenship/
    Yes, and when he returned to the US his parents "claimed" his citizenship.
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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian96 View Post
    What? Never heard of that, unless you were seeking naturalization.

    If he was born on US soil and was taken abroad on his US passport, unless he at some point renounces his US citizenship or officially adopts citizenship from another country, his US citizenship is maintained. In the absence of an official adoption of another country's citizenship or officially renouncing US citizenship, something as simple as applying for a US passport is sufficient to "claim" citizenship.
    Not so!

    What if he didn't have a US passport? If I am not mistaken, in 1963 children "piggy backed" on their parents passports. As for the Indonesian citizenship, a parent could have renounced his US citizenship, which he could have reclaimed. However, their is paperwork that has to be completed.

    As I said on another thread, I got np dog in this fight...but I do find it strange that Democrats were the ones advancing this matter.
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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    I'm an asshole! What's your excuse?

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    As a natural-born US citizen, Obama never had to claim his citizenship even if his parents moved outside the USA after his birth.

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    As a natural-born US citizen, Obama never had to claim his citizenship even if his parents moved outside the USA after his birth.
    Kenyan-born as stated by his own grandmother. That is more proof than has been provided by Obama in response.

    And if he was born in Kenya, he is not eligible to serve in office. Period.

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    Kenyan-born as stated by his own grandmother. That is more proof than has been provided by Obama in response.

    And if he was born in Kenya, he is not eligible to serve in office. Period.

    Not true...if his citizenship were claimed by his parents upon his return from Kenya.
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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Kenyan? Indonesian? That kind of crap doesn't matter! He is the anti-Christ. He was born in Hell .

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    You guys are nuttier than 10 million Christmas fruitcakes from Texas!

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Kenyan? Indonesian? That kind of crap doesn't matter! He is the anti-Christ. He was born in Hell .
    LOL

    I hope that was a joke!.. It's kind of bad that I can't tell.

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    You guys are nuttier than 10 million Christmas fruitcakes from Texas!
    Go away asshat!
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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    Go away asshat!
    Send him away. Hit the ignore button.

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    Not true...if his citizenship were claimed by his parents upon his return from Kenya.
    That's not the explanation I read here....

    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

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    Re: 'Constitutional crisis' looms over Obama's birth location

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    Go away asshat!
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