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    Re: Interesting article

    The only problem with VandeVelde or Dooley not giving him the facts is that those who read this article think that it makes more sense, financially, to join the Sunbelt or the Southland, when it doesn't. It's written down in black and white how much in revenue sharing we would drop while our travel wouldn't see as big a difference. Unfortunately, since this is an opinion piece, the asshole doesn't have to look at those facts and present them, not that he would anyway if it were to be a news article. Someone needs to put these numbers together on a post so that someone on here who gets the BR paper can copy them and send them in a letter to the editor as a rebuttal to this misinformation. Once again, just like this board tends to get inflammatory when football season ends, so do the writers of the newspapers. He needs some action, and the only other fan base in the state that has a pulse is ours, so get ready to be picked on until opening kickoff because we're the only ones that will defend ourselves.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Star Dawg View Post
    When did Jabba the Hut become a sports writer?
    No they aren't the same.... look real close and you can tell Carl has at least two more chins than Jabba does.

    Besides Jabba had hot chicks chained to him..... the only hot chicks that Carl has ever gotten that close to came in a red and white bucket and were fried.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Where's that dead horse...so I can kick it again.

    Here goes anyway...

    The problem is the minor, non-revenue sports. Period. End of story. Title IX, once again, well-intentioned federal buttfaces getting involved in things they know little about, and have no business in (which, is most things for federal beaurocraps), screwing everything up!

    Article today in the Times, focusing on NSU's athletics and quotes from Greg Burke regarding budget crunches, etc... and you read how increases in tutition costs NSU's AD an additional $129K in 'ship costs. Well, when 'ships go to female tennis, softball, soccer, etc.. and some men's sports as well, plus the costs of the coaches, travel, equipment, and all just so some kid from Texas or Idaho can get a "free" education on the backs of Louisiana taxpayers, and play a game they enjoy, well, where's the logic in that?

    Simply put, invest (the real definition of the term "invest") in sports that actually generate a return (ROI) and ALL other sports become club sports. No 'ships and minimal university support. Then watch how fast budget problems in athletic departments magically go away!

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    That was Bruce's quote I was referencing above. Gotta Love It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yall thought that was a good quote? Boo hoo Quit picking on Tech...Come on he should have laid into him.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by bluecrew View Post
    Yall thought that was a good quote? Boo hoo Quit picking on Tech...Come on he should have laid into him.
    Actually, what I think he should have done is lay out some cold hard facts.

    But you'd think someone who was looking could have found those facts.

    I just don't understand why people can't get the simple economics here. EVERY SCHOOL IS LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR OWN POCKETBOOK!

    Of course they are. And of course they should be. You know why Northwestern's AD would love a renewed State Fair game despite the divisional difference? It would mean more money for his school. You know why Tech isn't interested? Less money for our school. It isn't just a matter of thinking we're "too good to play them." It simply doesn't make sense to play a FCS school at a neutral site.

    Even the whole "perception" idea is really about money. If we don't play your school home-and-home because we think we can do better, it's because we're protecting our brand. If we can't do better - then we'll take what we can get.

    For all their big talk, either one of the ULX schools would rather have a home-and-home with MSU, USM, or Houston than us. Just like they'd rather play a home-and-home with Notre Dame than Rutgers. Or with Texas than Iowa State. Or BYU instead of New Mexico (if any of those were options). Every team works this way. You take the best deals you can get. You join the best conference that will take you.

    It's business - the guy getting the short end of the stick is always going to try to make it personal (because sometimes that works) but it isn't necessarily so. When LSU won't play in Ruston, we all know it's because they make a fortune from their home games - but we all love to scream about how scared they are. When we don't want to give up better games for ULX games, it's about $, but they always make it into some weird backroom conspiracy theory.

    Tech in the Belt (or some new Southland) would be good for ULX. So they are (and should be) trying to push buttons to get public opinion to go in that direction. They'd save money on travel and get bigger home gates. But Tech would suffer from lower conference payouts.

    This isn't rocket science.
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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by bluecrew View Post
    Yall thought that was a good quote? Boo hoo Quit picking on Tech...Come on he should have laid into him.
    , he says while biting into a greasy corndog.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Here’s 3 things about which we probably all agree with the writer:
    • Louisiana has budget problems.
    • Louisiana has too many 4 year universities.
    • Louisiana has too many universities competing in Division 1 athletics.
    His opinion article suggests that downsizing university athletics would be good for the state. Noticed how he focused on TECH. Maybe his real concern is that TECH is a sleeping giant and has the long term potential for challenging his lsu tiggers for state supremacy. To avoid revealing his fear of TECH, he suggests downsizing all of lsu’s in-state competition.

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    Re: Interesting article

    If we defeat LSU looks for the state to pass a law forbidding the transfer from the general fund to athletics ASAP.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by HoDo-Tech70 View Post
    Here’s 3 things about which we probably all agree with the writer:
    • Louisiana has budget problems.
    • Louisiana has too many 4 year universities.
    • Louisiana has too many universities competing in Division 1 athletics.
    His opinion article suggests that downsizing university athletics would be good for the state. Noticed how he focused on TECH. Maybe his real concern is that TECH is a sleeping giant and has the long term potential for challenging his lsu tiggers for state supremacy. To avoid revealing his fear of TECH, he suggests downsizing all of lsu’s in-state competition.
    Bingo. That's the modus operandi of these advocrap writers. When Rattay and company were lighting up the nation, something similar was written by Rabalais. They take their shots at Tech while using the other state schools as diversions.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    Actually, what I think he should have done is lay out some cold hard facts.

    But you'd think someone who was looking could have found those facts.

    I just don't understand why people can't get the simple economics here. EVERY SCHOOL IS LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR OWN POCKETBOOK!

    Of course they are. And of course they should be. You know why Northwestern's AD would love a renewed State Fair game despite the divisional difference? It would mean more money for his school. You know why Tech isn't interested? Less money for our school. It isn't just a matter of thinking we're "too good to play them." It simply doesn't make sense to play a FCS school at a neutral site.

    Even the whole "perception" idea is really about money. If we don't play your school home-and-home because we think we can do better, it's because we're protecting our brand. If we can't do better - then we'll take what we can get.

    For all their big talk, either one of the ULX schools would rather have a home-and-home with MSU, USM, or Houston than us. Just like they'd rather play a home-and-home with Notre Dame than Rutgers. Or with Texas than Iowa State. Or BYU instead of New Mexico (if any of those were options). Every team works this way. You take the best deals you can get. You join the best conference that will take you.

    It's business - the guy getting the short end of the stick is always going to try to make it personal (because sometimes that works) but it isn't necessarily so. When LSU won't play in Ruston, we all know it's because they make a fortune from their home games - but we all love to scream about how scared they are. When we don't want to give up better games for ULX games, it's about $, but they always make it into some weird backroom conspiracy theory.

    Tech in the Belt (or some new Southland) would be good for ULX. So they are (and should be) trying to push buttons to get public opinion to go in that direction. They'd save money on travel and get bigger home gates. But Tech would suffer from lower conference payouts.

    This isn't rocket science.
    Exactly! I totally agree with your entire post.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by HoDo-Tech70 View Post
    Here’s 3 things about which we probably all agree with the writer:
    • Louisiana has budget problems.
    • Louisiana has too many 4 year universities.
    • Louisiana has too many universities competing in Division 1 athletics.
    His opinion article suggests that downsizing university athletics would be good for the state. Noticed how he focused on TECH. Maybe his real concern is that TECH is a sleeping giant and has the long term potential for challenging his lsu tiggers for state supremacy. To avoid revealing his fear of TECH, he suggests downsizing all of lsu’s in-state competition.
    Another true post.

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    Re: Interesting article

    It's interesting to me that the ULLers at raginpagin were almost as ticked as we are by the whole "know your role" argument about playing former in-state rivals like McNeese and Northwestern. I forget how to link directly to a thread over there, but it's easy to find if you look. A couple of shots at Tech, but also railing on the writer, dream conference realignments, and student fees/funding discussion.

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    Re: Interesting article

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    It's interesting to me that the ULLers at raginpagin were almost as ticked as we are by the whole "know your role" argument about playing former in-state rivals like McNeese and Northwestern. I forget how to link directly to a thread over there, but it's easy to find if you look. A couple of shots at Tech, but also railing on the writer, dream conference realignments, and student fees/funding discussion.
    Here is the link to ULL's thread:

    http://www.raginpagin.com/hotpage/sh...d.php3?t=22606

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    Quote Originally Posted by qng001 View Post
    Didn't take long for that to turn into a good old fashioned "there's no second L" cryfest, did it?

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    Re: Interesting article

    Wow... They are very deep in denial.

    I have ultimate faith in Dooley, and I think he will make us even more proud to be Tech alum/fans pretty soon.

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