Did they have a book that told them that they were supposed to?Originally Posted by T_Won
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Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists.
De-facto Theist: I can't know for sure but I believe and I live on the assumption that he's there.
Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.
Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.
Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical.
De-facto Atheist: I can't know for sure but it's very improbable and I live under that assumption.
Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God.
Did they have a book that told them that they were supposed to?
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
Supposed to what? Share a common religion, be conquered, or return and re-establish?
When you buy a grill and it comes with an instruction manual, is it because of the instruction manual's prophecy that the grill becomes assembled?
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
Does the instruction manual write itself?
Does it matter if you believe it did?
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
I echo Guiss on this regarding the self fulfilling prophecy.
Last edited by RustonNative; 09-01-2009 at 11:30 AM.
I think you'd have to look at HOW the nation of Israel was reestablished before you'd call this one a self fulfilling prophesy. Maybe they did plan on having a nation of their own, but they certainly didn't plan on WWII or the concentration camps or any of those events.
Does the old testament predict that Israel would become a nation again in the last days? I guess you could argue that the nation was assisted in its creation by those who do believe in the Christ.
Yep, that's about what I'd argue. But then again it might not matter to those who believe in the prophecy HOW it came about.
I'm not entirely sure that I understand the levels of the belief scale. I do not doubt the existence of God, but I can not prove it to anyone. So... what is "for sure"? Eh, who cares. I believe in God and live life as best as I can according to what I believe is right in His eyes.
Of course it matters. That would mean there is someone/something more intelligent than me in grill assembly who is providing guidance. Someone who has gone out of their way to care that I get it right. If it lead to build a television set instead, I would have to question the reliability of it.
Oh that wasn't predictable.
Is the apacolypse also inevitable because of the Bible? Why can't an atheist write something that contradicts the Bible and states that Earth will eventually end in a utopia and that can be our self-fulfilling goal? (not being an ass, just trying to understand this point of view)
I had no intention to offend, if I did. I was just expressing my opinion.
Not offended. Just saying that one atheist agreeing with another atheist over matters of faith was predictable.
Yeah I guess my post was useless. I had intended to say more about how the victors of WWII were fully aware of the prophecy and took the opportunity to do something good for the Jews since the Jews were treated with such cruelty by the Nazis. And in doing so, they fulfilled the prophecy. To me, it would have meant more if the prophecy were unknown to them, but whatever.
I just didn't see the need at the time. I think it's a good thing they have a home. They haven't had peace there in a long time. They're in turmoil. I don't know if the prophecy covered this part, but are they supposed to be struggling with terrorists as much as they are?
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