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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    One Unwary Phone Call Led US to Bin Laden Doorstep

    "The revelation that intelligence gleaned from the CIA's so-called black sites helped kill bin Laden was seen as vindication for many intelligence officials who have been repeatedly investigated and criticized for their involvement in a program that involved the harshest interrogation methods in U.S. history.
    "We got beat up for it, but those efforts led to this great day," said Marty Martin, a retired CIA officer who for years led the hunt for bin Laden.
    Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic."

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    It seems they are saying that regular interrogation didn't work, so they did the enhanced interrogation and broke his will to the point where regular interrogation worked.
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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    the waterboarding had nothing to do with the intelligence that led to OBL's death. Keep dreaming. He has been living in that compound for 3 years now. It was gained from observation of the compound through servelience. Sometimes you people border on the rediculous.

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Quote Originally Posted by beaux66 View Post
    the waterboarding had nothing to do with the intelligence that led to OBL's death. Keep dreaming. He has been living in that compound for 3 years now. It was gained from observation of the compound through servelience. Sometimes you people border on the rediculous.
    You saying that it had nothing to do with it is as much speculation as those saying it did. What makes you correct?

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Quote Originally Posted by beaux66 View Post
    the waterboarding had nothing to do with the intelligence that led to OBL's death. Keep dreaming. He has been living in that compound for 3 years now. It was gained from observation of the compound through servelience. Sometimes you people border on the rediculous.
    Nevermind the waterboarding and interrogation aspects.

    But the information came from GITMO in 2007, not observation of the compound. Geronimo would have been living there before that, so he had been at the compound almost 6 or 7 years before this op. Even with that little bit from GITMO about couriers, it took all this time to track him down, identify him, and then to identify the mansion. The government made huge assumptions that Geronimo was there that luckily turned out to be correct.

    At least get your facts right.
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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Bush-Era Interrogations Provided Key Details on Bin Laden's Location
    By Catherine Herridge
    Published May 02, 2011


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/02/bush-era-interrogations-provided-key-details-bin-ladens-location/

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    I don't think any of us will ever know for sure. That said, even Donald Rumsfeld is saying torture didn't have anything to do with this.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Dona...mo_code=C30F-1

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Unfortunately, I don't believe that claim or it's opposite can ever be proven beyond any reasonable doubt.
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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Quote Originally Posted by odysseus View Post
    I don't think any of us will ever know for sure. That said, even Donald Rumsfeld is saying torture didn't have anything to do with this.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Dona...mo_code=C30F-1
    FWIW, Cheney was saying it did yesterday and today.

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    FWIW, Cheney was saying it did yesterday and today.
    Of course he will. It's he said, she said.

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    FWIW, Cheney was saying it did yesterday and today.
    Well, those guys aren't in positions of power any more so I doubt either really know for sure.

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    Re: Waterboarding worked

    Can't and won't get involved in the back-and-forth banter, but wanted to point out that Rumsfeld is only talking to EITs used at Guantanamo and other DoD facilities, not agency black sites.


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