Congrats to the Rebels

[dawg80]

West Monroe was the better team.

But, had a blast nonetheless! Saw all three Sat games...and good thing we went when we did, monsoons flooded area streets and kept attendance down for the Rummel-WM game. My sister and her crew kept trying and arrived about 20 mins before kickoff. Streets were closed, but she knows all the side routes and was able to make it to the Dome. Unfortunately thousands of others could not and so attendance was down a little.

The Neville QB is good, but I think he's too slow to be effective in DI football. Maybe....maybe not. He has lots of positives, but his lack of foot speed could be a problem. Neville also has a good kicker. And some kid...#13, I think, who looked good.

Great atmosphere! Gotta love high school football.

Anyway, always proud to be a Rummel Raider.

Congrats to this year's champions.

BTW, the rains let up and streets opened by the time our game was over...LATE into the night...and it was crazy seeing all these cars abandoned on medians and along the streets. Obviously their owners gave up and waded home or something. Eerie.

[PawDawg]

You are a good sport. I posted in another thread about the Rummel defense and the cap I owe you. The Rummel defense was great!

The Neville QB is good, but I think he's too slow to be effective in DI football. Maybe....maybe not. He has lots of positives, but his lack of foot speed could be a problem. Neville also has a good kicker. And some kid...#13, I think, who looked good.

By foot speed I assume you mean in and around the LOS. I didn't notice any stumbling, but did notice a big guy moving pretty well. I'm sure they will work on his mechanics. In case you mean running speed...a 4.7 6'3" guy never looks fast when he has a 4.5 5'10" guy coming from behind with the angle.

#13 is a freshman.

[dawg80]

Burch? That's the Neville QB, right?

Like I said...tons of positives. Good QB. I just noticed he was a little slow. Too slow for DI football? I dunno. But as a scout (which I was for a time) I'd note that as a a concern. DI defensive linemen and linebackers are fast.

[bluecrew]

Burch? That's the Neville QB, right?

Like I said...tons of positives. Good QB. I just noticed he was a little slow. Too slow for DI football? I dunno. But as a scout (which I was for a time) I'd note that as a a concern. DI defensive linemen and linebackers are fast.

I dont think we will be asking him to run that much. Also If you noticed he has alot of "stuff" on his knee since the injury, hampers his speed just a bit. Kid played Centerfield in baseball before the injury. I have been high on him since I saw him at a 7 on 7 camp during his freshman season and glad as hell he is going to Tech.

[hachiman]

I dont think we will be asking him to run that much. Also If you noticed he has alot of "stuff" on his knee since the injury, hampers his speed just a bit. Kid played Centerfield in baseball before the injury. I have been high on him since I saw him at a 7 on 7 camp during his freshman season and glad as hell he is going to Tech.

First time I ever saw him was on the diamond pre injury and he could roll!
He isn't as fast post knee injury, but dawg80 he is fast enough to play div. 1 QB.

[dawg80]

If this kid is Tech-bound, I hope all of you are right.

I did not know about his knee injury. Made an observation based on what I saw. I know what I saw...with my own eyes.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

The Neville QB is good, but I think he's too slow to be effective in DI football. Maybe....maybe not. He has lots of positives, but his lack of foot speed could be a problem..

Didn't he take off for about a 65 yard run in the 1st quarter? He out ran plenty of guys until the last few steps. He just looks a tad slow due to his size I bet.

"He finished with 17-of-25 passes complete for 305 yards and three touchdowns and eight carries for 92 yards."

[DONW]

Didn't he take off for about a 65 yard run in the 1st quarter? He out ran plenty of guys until the last few steps. He just looks a tad slow due to his size I bet.

"He finished with 17-of-25 passes complete for 305 yards and three touchdowns and eight carries for 92 yards."

He can't be that slow to average 11.5 yards per carry. I know he's not as slow as Mallet, the Arkansas QB.

[PawDawg]

He can't be that slow to average 11.5 yards per carry. I know he's not as slow as Mallet, the Arkansas QB.

He's listed at 4.6 which translates to a 4.7. :icon_wink:

Not bad for a 6'3" boy w/meat on his bones.

[TechDAG]

In the semifinal game on ice/mud he ran quite well also. He was very effective. He also had some power to run through arm tackles.

[glm47]

Shows whole career is a sham. Playing with entire teams of players that are a year older than their counterparts. That one year makes a huge difference in a high school athlete.

[LABulldog]

Shows whole career is a sham. Playing with entire teams of players that are a year older than their counterparts. That one year makes a huge difference in a high school athlete.

Are you one of those that got whipped up on by the Rebels? Shows did nothing that was against the rules and you know it. He just happened to realize the advantage to the "hold-back" before the rest of the state did. Other schools were doing it too but because of the success that Shows had, most everyone else started crying foul. Hence, a rule was written to disqualify the senior year if a player was held back after the 5th grade. Do you have facts that Shows asked the players parents to hold back the child for athletic purposes? I doubt it! Even with the rule, parents are still holding back their kids in the 5th grade. I personally know a number of families that did this who's kids are seniors this year. And what about the "fail" gap in the hold-back rule. That gap is if a kid fails a year, he does not lose a year of eligibility as long as the age rule doesn't kick in. Can you believe that parents will deliberatley get their kid to fail (missing too many days is one way) so they can hold-back? I know a family that did this too. None of these families I've mentioned are in the WM football program either.

Get over your anger towards Shows as a coach and give some credit to the system he basically perfected at West Monroe. Facts prove that what he does works. You might not like him as a person but he's a heck of a motivator and coach and his record speaks for itself.

[glm47]

Are you one of those that got whipped up on by the Rebels? Shows did nothing that was against the rules and you know it. He just happened to realize the advantage to the "hold-back" before the rest of the state did. Other schools were doing it too but because of the success that Shows had, most everyone else started crying foul. Hence, a rule was written to disqualify the senior year if a player was held back after the 5th grade. Do you have facts that Shows asked the players parents to hold back the child for athletic purposes? I doubt it! Even with the rule, parents are still holding back their kids in the 5th grade. I personally know a number of families that did this who's kids are seniors this year. And what about the "fail" gap in the hold-back rule. That gap is if a kid fails a year, he does not lose a year of eligibility as long as the age rule doesn't kick in. Can you believe that parents will deliberatley get their kid to fail (missing too many days is one way) so they can hold-back? I know a family that did this too. None of these families I've mentioned are in the WM football program either.

Get over your anger towards Shows as a coach and give some credit to the system he basically perfected at West Monroe. Facts prove that what he does works. You might not like him as a person but he's a heck of a motivator and coach and his record speaks for itself.

Dude, you give WM & Shows way too much credit. Anger, not hardly. I really could care less what shows or WM do or have done. Just making a comment.

And no, I nor my school have been "whupped up" on by WM. Even if they had i wouldn't lose any sleep over it because it's meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

[Dawgpix]

Dude, you give WM & Shows way too much credit. Anger, not hardly. I really could care less what shows or WM do or have done. Just making a comment.

And no, I nor my school have been "whupped up" on by WM. Even if they had i wouldn't lose any sleep over it because it's meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

My views on holdbacks changed after I read Malcolm Gladwell's book, The Outliers.
IT IS all about when you're born in successful athletics programs. He uses youth hockey teams as an example. After reading the book I could NOT care less about holdbacks. It's a choice of the parents.

This year, my second grade grandson (natural "holdback" birthday of Oct. 2) is missing at least 10 of his classmates from last year. Those kids were held back in the first grade by their parents. I would wager their children stand no chance of experiencing the Don in 10 years or so. So . . . does that make every other coach a sham?


As a sidenote, I always found it interesting how my father did not take senior English so he could spend another year in high school under his extraordinary music teacher and save money to go north to college at Northwestern University.

His second senior year class schedule was a real sham:icon_wink:: senior English, yearbook editor, school paper editor, orchestra, band, choir (accompaniest).

[PawDawg]

Shows whole career is a sham. Playing with entire teams of players that are a year older than their counterparts. That one year makes a huge difference in a high school athlete.

I'm not a fan of Shows the man, but this is a rediculous statement. LABulldog did an excellent job of covering the topic, but I want to make sure I understand your stance on this...

You have no problem with 18-19 year old seniors as long as they failed or never held back?