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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Also taught vacation bible school in Kingsville in 2014.
    Is this you Guislapp?

    Some Reactions to TX Shooting Revealed 'Elite Hostility to People of Faith'

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/11/0...y-people-faith

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Is this you Guislapp?

    Some Reactions to TX Shooting Revealed 'Elite Hostility to People of Faith'

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/11/0...y-people-faith
    No, but I do find it interesting that Trump removed one of the mental health restrictions on the background checks. I thought we all agreed mentally ill people should not be allowed to acquire guns. And, yes, I know in this case it was our esteemed military that dropped the ball on reporting the criminal conviction.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Is this you Guislapp?

    Some Reactions to TX Shooting Revealed 'Elite Hostility to People of Faith'

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/11/0...y-people-faith
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No, but I do find it interesting that Trump removed one of the mental health restrictions on the background checks. I thought we all agreed mentally ill people should not be allowed to acquire guns. And, yes, I know in this case it was our esteemed military that dropped the ball on reporting the criminal conviction.
    Sorry but this nd mentally ill sick shooter " had purchased a total of four guns during the past four years, officials said.". This is during mentally challenged Obama's term as President. And yes it appears the Air Force might have screwed up. We shall see.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Sorry but this nd mentally ill sick shooter " had purchased a total of four guns during the past four years, officials said.". This is during mentally challenged Obama's term as President. And yes it appears the Air Force might have screwed up. We shall see.
    Do you support Trump rolling back one of the mental health restrictions?

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you support Trump rolling back one of the mental health restrictions?
    Which one? And did he actually "roll it back"?

    Again this declared atheist, and evil shooter bought his guns over the last 4 years during Obama's reign.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Which one? And did he actually "roll it back"?

    Again this declared atheist, and evil shooter bought his guns over the last 4 years during Obama's reign.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mental-n727221

    Back in February.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Sorry but this mentally ill sick shooter " had purchased a total of four guns during the past four years, officials said.". This is during mentally challenged Obama's term as President. And yes it appears the Air Force might have screwed up. We shall see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you support Trump rolling back one of the mental health restrictions?
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Which one? And did he actually "roll it back"?

    Again this declared atheist, and evil shooter bought his guns over the last 4 years during Obama's reign.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Again I say, this declared atheist, and evil shooter " had purchased a total of four guns during the past four years, officials said.". This was during Obama's reign of terror.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Again I say, this declared atheist, and evil shooter " had purchased a total of four guns during the past four years, officials said.". This was during Obama's reign of terror.
    You didn’t answer my question, and I already said that Trump’s reversal of Obama’s rule has nothing to do with this mass murder. Why can’t you answer the question that was asked?

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Sorry but this nd mentally ill sick shooter " had purchased a total of four guns during the past four years, officials said.". This is during mentally challenged Obama's term as President. And yes it appears the Air Force might have screwed up. We shall see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you support Trump rolling back one of the mental health restrictions?
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Which one? And did he actually "roll it back"?

    Again this declared atheist, and evil shooter bought his guns over the last 4 years during Obama's reign.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You didn’t answer my question, and I already said that Trump’s reversal of Obama’s rule has nothing to do with this mass murder. Why can’t you answer the question that was asked?
    If there isn't another mentally ill mass murderer then yes. How's that? But unfortunately there will be. This story and "roll back" isn't finished yet. It will be changed soon IMHO.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    If there isn't another mentally ill mass murderer then yes. How's that? But unfortunately there will be. This story and "roll back" isn't finished yet. It will be changed soon IMHO.
    Just trying to figure out if you agree that mentally ill people should be barred from getting guns. And, if you agree with this basic premise, how you feel about Trump removing one of the protections against it.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you support Trump rolling back one of the mental health restrictions?
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Which one? And did he actually "roll it back"?

    Again this declared atheist, and evil shooter bought his guns over the last 4 years during Obama's reign.
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    If there isn't another mentally ill mass murderer then yes. How's that? But unfortunately there will be. This story and "roll back" isn't finished yet. It will be changed soon IMHO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Just trying to figure out if you agree that mentally ill people should be barred from getting guns. And, if you agree with this basic premise, how you feel about Trump removing one of the protections against it.
    I think I just answered that question above. "Good chat son."

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No, but I do find it interesting that Trump removed one of the mental health restrictions on the background checks. I thought we all agreed mentally ill people should not be allowed to acquire guns. And, yes, I know in this case it was our esteemed military that dropped the ball on reporting the criminal conviction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Just trying to figure out if you agree that mentally ill people should be barred from getting guns. And, if you agree with this basic premise, how you feel about Trump removing one of the protections against it.
    My understanding of the Obama regulation was that it took away 2A rights for people that "who have been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs" in regards to Social Security. "The NRA and the American Civil Liberties Union also opposed Obama's rule — the NRA for its restrictions on the Second Amendment, the ACLU for the possibility it would stereotype the mentally ill as violent."

    It seems, and the ACLU agreed that the regulation was heavy handed and unfairly stereotyped a group of people. The "roll back" removes the power to restrict constitutional rights from a bureaucrat and leaves it to a judicial system where it can be properly adjudicated.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ill-gun-buyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post
    My understanding of the Obama regulation was that it took away 2A rights for people that "who have been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs" in regards to Social Security. "The NRA and the American Civil Liberties Union also opposed Obama's rule — the NRA for its restrictions on the Second Amendment, the ACLU for the possibility it would stereotype the mentally ill as violent."

    It seems, and the ACLU agreed that the regulation was heavy handed and unfairly stereotyped a group of people. The "roll back" removes the power to restrict constitutional rights from a bureaucrat and leaves it to a judicial system where it can be properly adjudicated.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ill-gun-buyers
    Thanks atobulldog!

    And there you have it Guislapp. Just more spinning BS news, by the left you are reading, trying to create more crappola on Trump.

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post
    My understanding of the Obama regulation was that it took away 2A rights for people that "who have been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs" in regards to Social Security. "The NRA and the American Civil Liberties Union also opposed Obama's rule — the NRA for its restrictions on the Second Amendment, the ACLU for the possibility it would stereotype the mentally ill as violent."

    It seems, and the ACLU agreed that the regulation was heavy handed and unfairly stereotyped a group of people. The "roll back" removes the power to restrict constitutional rights from a bureaucrat and leaves it to a judicial system where it can be properly adjudicated.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ill-gun-buyers
    I thought they had to be receiving a Social Security disability payment ("a crazy check") and be incapable of managing their affairs. I didn't think this applied to the rank and file retiree collecting their EARNED Social Security payment from 30+ years of hard work and taxes.

    Personally, I am in favor of this restriction for the crazy check folks, but I am not in favor of doing this via executive order. The president should not be able to deprive anyone of their constitutional rights (the right to bear arms) without going through congress and it passing a Supreme Court ruling.

    Just saw this was a bill, so ignore the executive order comment. (edited again....was this an executive order by Obama after all?)

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    Re: Terrorism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Thanks atobulldog!

    And there you have it Guislapp. Just more spinning BS news, by the left you are reading, trying to create more crappola on Trump.
    The most concerning point of this is that they were using private, yet publicly held, medical records to determine who gets to keep their constitutional rights. Think about how this could turn out if we go to a single payer system where your medical records are easily accessible by the likes of Lois Lerner, John Gruber or some other government hack. The government is NOT a benign entity, and the bigger it is the less benign it will be.

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