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    I thought that since I have quite extensive knowledge about growing grass (sod) I would offer my advice here for anyone that has questions about having the best looking lawn you can have. I can also answer some questions about landscape plants but those are a bit more tricky. So fire away if you have any questions or concerns about your lawn or landscape.

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    Re: Grass

    How and when do you attempt to kill crabgrass?

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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post
    How and when do you attempt to kill crabgrass?

    Ato, the best way to get rid of crabgrass is to never let it germinate. You do this by applying a pre-emergent before it comes up, usually about the time most people start to take interest in their lawn for the year. Once the soil temp hits about 65 crabgrass will start to come up. I put down a single application on St. Aug, Centipede in Feb and I do split applications on Bermuda in Feb and March. Once it is up it's tough to get rid of. MSMA works on Bermuda.

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    Re: Grass

    Every spring I get these nasty sandburs in the back yard. They get in the dog, shoelaces, etc, get tracked in the house and you step on them in the middle of the night (ouch). My back yard is really too big to sod and water consistently. I would prefer a method that I could treat it once a year and forget it. I don't care what other weeds I get back there, as long as it is not THAT weed.

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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinDawg View Post
    Every spring I get these nasty sandburs in the back yard. They get in the dog, shoelaces, etc, get tracked in the house and you step on them in the middle of the night (ouch). My back yard is really too big to sod and water consistently. I would prefer a method that I could treat it once a year and forget it. I don't care what other weeds I get back there, as long as it is not THAT weed.

    There used to be a great herbicide for sand bur called Confront (chloropyrilid, triclypor). The EPA restricted it to golf courses. If you know some one you might find it. You can try a product called Spotlight or look for something with a that is labled for that weed. I'll check to see what you might be able to buy at a garden center.

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    Re: Grass

    Any way to get bahayah (sp?) out other than just digging it up? I've thought about using a ropewick/roundup contraption on it.

    Best grass in shade (approx. 75%)?
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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Any way to get bahayah (sp?) out other than just digging it up? I've thought about using a ropewick/roundup contraption on it.

    Best grass in shade (approx. 75%)?
    I got rid of most of the bahia in my yard by putting out lime to increase the pH and by mowing it frequently to keep it very short. This got rid of the majority of it.

    For what was left I went to a farm co-op store and got a chemical designed for bahia and sprayed it on the remaining bahia. Most of it is still there. Digging it up also works.

    I took samples of soil to the county agent and he sent it off for analysis. The analysis told me how much lime to put out. For the bahia area I put our more lime than recommended.

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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by HoDo-Tech70 View Post
    I got rid of most of the bahia in my yard by putting out lime to increase the pH and by mowing it frequently to keep it very short. This got rid of the majority of it.

    For what was left I went to a farm co-op store and got a chemical designed for bahia and sprayed it on the remaining bahia. Most of it is still there. Digging it up also works.

    I took samples of soil to the county agent and he sent it off for analysis. The analysis told me how much lime to put out. For the bahia area I put our more lime than recommended.

    Depending on the herbicide they gave you it was either the wrong one or it was misapplied. One thing that most do it yourselfers commonly do is miscalculate the rate to apply. You also have to reapply some herbicides a second or third time within a timeframe. A lot of people miss that as well. If you have a particular herbicide that you are trying to apply and you are not sure let me know and I will give you detailed instructions.

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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Any way to get bahayah (sp?) out other than just digging it up? I've thought about using a ropewick/roundup contraption on it.

    Best grass in shade (approx. 75%)?

    metsulfuronmethel, goes by the brand name Manor. Works great on bahaia.

    There is nothing better than St. Aug in the shade. 75% though is about the max you can grow St. Aug. Sounds like you are not having success with that so there is another option. With that much shade you could plant Tall Fescue. It will stay green all winter and you will have to mow it during the winter months but it will survive the hot summers in heavy shade. Most of the time when I have a customer that is dealing with that type of situation I recomend that they stop trying to grow grass where it doesn't want to grow and landscape the area. Azaleas are great in shade and paving stones and ground cover are another option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GonzoDawg View Post
    metsulfuronmethel, goes by the brand name Manor. Works great on bahaia.

    There is nothing better than St. Aug in the shade. 75% though is about the max you can grow St. Aug. Sounds like you are not having success with that so there is another option. With that much shade you could plant Tall Fescue. It will stay green all winter and you will have to mow it during the winter months but it will survive the hot summers in heavy shade. Most of the time when I have a customer that is dealing with that type of situation I recomend that they stop trying to grow grass where it doesn't want to grow and landscape the area. Azaleas are great in shade and paving stones and ground cover are another option.
    We have fescue at our place in Atlanta and it is awesome. Great to walk on barefoot.

    Used to pull bahia out of my front yard with my fingers every Saturday morning in the summer when I lived in Florida.
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    Re: Grass

    I have a question. My neighbors don't treat their long on a regular basis so I always end up with various things going to seed and the getting into my yard. When would be the best time it pre-emerge to prevent some of that, and is there any one product that is better?
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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by DallasDog View Post
    I have a question. My neighbors don't treat their long on a regular basis so I always end up with various things going to seed and the getting into my yard. When would be the best time it pre-emerge to prevent some of that, and is there any one product that is better?

    DD, 1st what type of grass do you have? There are a couple of times a year that you can put down pre-emerge to keep their weeds out of your lawn. The Sometime between now and March you need to get your crabgrass control down. It may also be beneficial to put down two applications several weeks apart to extend control through the summer. Then next fall you want to put down a winterizer to prevent the winter annuals like clover, henbit, chickweed, etc. As far as products I'm not too familiar with the "over the counter" stuff since everything I buy is professional grade. If you send let me know what products you are looking and the square footage of the area you are treating I can help you decide and tell you how much to buy and what rate to put it down. One thing to think about, if you can find a good lawn care company to do your lawn most of us offer a discount for refering new business. So you could get your neighbors on and save yourself both the problem and some money. Let me know and if you need some specific instuctions you can call me at my office 318-742-2626.

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    Re: Grass

    Gonzo: What do you do about large mushrooms growing in your yard-stuffed with blue cheese, panko bread crumbs, imported parmesan cheese, garlic/basil/oregano? :icon_wink: They're here at work and taking over!
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    Re: Grass

    Quote Originally Posted by marketdawg View Post
    Gonzo: What do you do about large mushrooms growing in your yard-stuffed with blue cheese, panko bread crumbs, imported parmesan cheese, garlic/basil/oregano? :icon_wink: They're here at work and taking over!
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