100 agreement.Originally Posted by T_Won
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100 agreement.
the country is saved!!! Judging from this forum, all true conservatives will refuse to collect their Social Sercurity and will not accept Medicare under any circumstances. All spending outside the USofA will be halted (that includes the assorted wars and police actions), all immigrants will be deported or killed, all gays will be killed, all non-fundamentalists will be killed, all handicapped citizens will be placed on the sides of mountains and allowed to die, all aid to all farmers will cease, all public education will cease, and everyone will live in non-taxed bliss. Cave men got along fine without government, police, utilities, transportation, etc. Why shouldn't we? Three cheers for the Red, White, and Blue!!!
Let me guess... you had a rough night last night?
Nope. Leave it all the way it is but put a Federal cap on costs of your above back to 2006 BP (before Pelosi). And then vote in a flat tax. Yeap, a Fed cap on cost (not cap and trade) and flat tax will do the trick.the country is saved!!! Judging from this forum, all true conservatives will refuse to collect their Social Sercurity and will not accept Medicare under any circumstances. All spending outside the USofA will be halted (that includes the assorted wars and police actions), all immigrants will be deported or killed, all gays will be killed, all non-fundamentalists will be killed, all handicapped citizens will be placed on the sides of mountains and allowed to die, all aid to all farmers will cease, all public education will cease, and everyone will live in non-taxed bliss. Cave men got along fine without government, police, utilities, transportation, etc. Why shouldn't we? Three cheers for the Red, White, and Blue!!!
I'm still waiting for somebody to take the lead and say, "I'll refuse to take govt. funded anything". the problem is, nobody will do it. no hedging or whining, just flat out pledge, publicly, here and now, that you will refuse to accept medicare or ss. I really don't expect ANY takers on this proposition, thus, the problem will remain regardless of who is in control or who is running the show . . . Reps, Dems, Teas, Libs, Cons, it doesn't matter. Nobody is willing to lead the way and everybody wants their cut off the top. Lots of noise but no guts.
Ron Paul?
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
And you are missing the point. If someone is offering something for free, people will take it. That is as much of a natural law as gravity. Instead of fighting nature, i.e., expecting that it is POSSIBLE for people across the board to refuse to accept something that is offered to them, why not control the thing that can be controlled - whether something is given away in the first place. If it wasn't offered, people wouldn't take it. Problem solved.
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
Like someone already stated, I'll take that deal. Just give me back what was taken from my earnings (hey, no interest even required) and stop taking it out from here on out, and I will take that money back and invest it as I see fit for my future.
The fallacy with your question is that you refer to these programs as government funded. The government doesn't fund anything, taxpayers do. Maybe you haven't paid into these programs and see them as "free money", but most of us have put quite a bit into them already, and what we have put into them has kept us from being able to put more into what we would like to put away for our retirement and future medical expenses.
That is a dumbass mentality when the government takes so much money from us.
just another one of the group, collecting his handout
Isn't that the truth. Amazing how someone can see this as "free money" when most of us are paying thousands a year into the SS program -- typically a viewpoint held by someone not paying anything into it yet reaping the benefits. I never even realized how much I was throwing into the SS black hole until a few years back when I started hitting the annual cap and got to keep the extra money. I would gladly give up SS benefits and elect to keep my money each paycheck. Guarantee I can do more with it than Uncle Sam.
then it sounds like most people are in favor of these programs! the people who have the power to end the programs will never do it because they too, think that what they paid in is "owed" to them. What about the people now depending on these programs to survive? I guess the "die fast" method will remedy that when we eliminate healthcare and ss. Still, NOBODY has been willing to say, "ok, I'll be the first to do it"
as i said previously, before these programs came about, people did not take care of this problem on their own. My dad cussed ss taxes for years until he qualified for medicare and it save him from complete financial ruin. He went to his grave a few years ago praising medicare to his last breath. I've found people are usually against a lot of things, until it effects them, then things change.
I don't understand how you brought SS into the health insurance debate. SS is not what is bringing down the system. SSI and medicare are a different story.
Most any of us would have opted out of SS given the chance when we began our working career. Unfortunately only govenment employees and certain others tied to government have that option. Personally I'd opt out now after 34 years of paying in if they'd just let me stop paying.
medicare and healthcare are tied together with ss. I'm not sure where you got ssi involved with healthcare. anyway, they are all government programs. if it's ended, you won't have to pay the taxes, but you will have to pay the bills.
I work for the gub'ment... wish I had the option to get out of SS. Unfortunately, it is part of the FERS retirement system.
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