Didn't mean to imply that all government workers had the opt out.Originally Posted by mildawg
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Didn't mean to imply that all government workers had the opt out.
I said that medicare was part of the problem. You've got a legitimate point there, but only because the government refuses to reimburse the docs and hospitals a fair amount. It has NOTHING to do with the insurance companies who are being attacked by the liberals.
Are you fully insured in the SS system? If not, you really don't have a dog in the hunt anyway when it comes to SS. I'll be glad to discuss the costs of insurance to the state government for retired state employees. That's another ticking time bomb.
gimpy is just another socialist - no new arguments, the same old, same old.
Which handout?
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
I was waiting for that . . .when nothing else works, call them a socialist. I am a retired Louisiana school teacher. we don't/didn't pay ss on our state income. we had to pay ss on any outside school work we do/did. when we retire, we can draw little or no ss. If I work at some menial job for 4 quarters I might qualify for medicare. right now our state employees health insurance is ok, but each year, the rates go up and what is paid goes down. what doctors and hospitals charge has gone up far faster than our coverage. since the stooge currently posing as governor seems to think that the way to pay bills is to not bring in money, I'm not sure how long our state employees insurance group will stay afloat. as things currently stand with the insurance industry, I can not buy private insurance because of "pre-existing conditions", and that's not with a wait or at exhorbitant rates, that's CAN NOT BUY, WILL NOT SELL TO ME, GO AWAY, ETC. I keep saying i'll stay off this forum since it is merely a sounding board for the far right but i keep getting drawn back. As predicted, NOBODY took me up on my suggestion to save the country and refuse all govt. handouts. Lots of excuses and moaning but NOBODY had the balls to do it, and you won't and your buddies in BR and DC won't either and nothing will change for the better. I will not post on this thread any more because it has become another pissing match and at my age pissing is not one of my better skills. Ya'll carry on with your ideas for the new Reich. PM me if you have anything constructive to say. This has made me sleepy.
As predicted none of the democrats took my challenge and gave all their money to the government, either.
Jordan Mills on choosing Tech:
“It’s a great experience seeing them play. It was a good atmosphere. The fans stood up the whole game and never sat down. They have a great fan base.”
Wow. Spoken like a true retired government worker. Didn't have to pay in tens of thousands of dollars in SS, but wish you had it now. You sit up on your throne (just like the congressmen who don't pay in) and demand a better system for those who have paid in (including yourself).
You have a better plan in place than many current workers today and it's not costing you as much more, if any more, than medicare recipients pay for their supplement.
When insurance companies begin accepting folks with preexisting conditions, it ceases to be insurance and becomes and entitlement. What you want right?
I didn't think you were. Just wish I was lucky enough to have the option, because I'd take it.
This is all I needed to hear. You worked in a program that has tenure! How many other non government jobs have that? I can be fired at will but a teacher has to have major problems before being brought up on a tenure hearing and even then they don't always get rid of the teacher. You also have a retirement program as part of the Louisiana school teacher program. How much you paid in I have know idea but I do know that system because my father and soon my mother will be part of the same retirement system. I'd love to have that luxury when I retire. My retirement will most likely by paid by 90+ % of my own money and when it runs out it's gone. Yes I will give credit to the occasional payments to my retirement by my employers but there is nothing guaranteed from them. Your retirement will last until you die. How much you get is dependent on how long you were in the system and how you set up your payments.
Can I buy into the State employes insurance group? Didn't think so. Most of us on here have troubles with our medical cost. It's way out of hand but you can't overhaul the system overnight. You've got to make small steps.
Oh yeah, I don't see you taking up your own suggestion about refusing any and all gov't handouts. Guess you don't have any balls either.
Listen, I don't know you from a hole in the ground (I think!) but the only way this can get better is if we all work to a common goal of improving the system, not by throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Small steps and tweaking the system will get us where we need to be IMHO.
Nice attitude you have working there. Actually, you've succeeded in making it sound like pissing has been your only skill. On behalf of the State of Louisiana and the governor, thanks for retiring.
The problem is when the middle class and wealthy are the ones paying 98% of all taxes it's the least they can do do get a small fraction of that back. I say grab all of it back you can. Afterall, it's our money to begin with not the Feds.
The problem is when the middle class and wealthy are the ones paying 98% of all taxes it's the least they can do do get a small fraction of that back. I say grab all of it back you can. Afterall, it's our money to begin with not the Feds.
You are truly and idiot if you think taking the money back that they forced you to pay in for is a handout. Now, if you want to say that there is all kinds of money wasted on paying farmers to not plant etc., I agree with you there. I think you have combined them in your head. The programs are not the same. Now, I will gladly give up any SS or Medicare money if they will just give me back the money they made me pay in. Of course these were the govt. terms that we had no part in setting. I am not sure why you are crying about not getting these - you didn't have to pay into it. My husband did pay in and if he died today we would not get a dime because he doesn't pay into the program right now with his current job. But we are not sitting him worried about it or wondering how we would live. I am glad we aren't having to waste paying that money in right now. I can't believe you seriously are worried about your insurance - please. There are people that have a problem with insurance - you paying more for your current coverage is certainly not an issue they would be worried about. Stop your crying- you have coverage- yes, you do have to pay for it -we all do.
Last edited by Cal&Ken; 02-22-2010 at 05:55 AM.
I would give up SS right now ... and the money I've paid into it ... if they will drop it. I could double-down on my 401(K) and be much better off at 65.
The TRSL is better than SS.
Like I said before, you are a socialist based on your posts. You are dishing out a bunch of mixed up crap in a rant. Your "argument" of "you guys should not accept gov benefits" is bogus, and if you can't see that, it's probably because of your socialist tendencies.
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