Donovan McNabb Trade

[StrayDawg]

What do you guys think?

I think it's the dumbest trade I have seen since the Saints traded their whole draft for Ricky Williams (and that's coming from a Saints fan). Ironically, Donovan was drafted that same day, and Philly fans booed the pick because the wanted Ricky Williams.

It is particularly dumb considering that they traded him within the division. This makes the Redskins a much better team and officially puts the Eagles in rebuilding mode, in my opinion.

What do you Cowboys fans think? This really changes your division.

[bluecrew]

From a blog i did on our website.

The City of Brotherly Love? My A$%

I don’t know what it is in particular about the city of Philadelphia that I don’t like. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy a good cheese steak and it’s the city that gave wrestling fans ecw, but I think that’s where our love affair ends.

This is a city the prides themselves on being the tough guy. They carry a swagger that they can take on anybody, anyplace, anywhere. Maybe that’s what I don’t like them. I mean there are tough people everywhere. Hell in Louisiana we have humidity, hurricanes, and the murder capitol of the country. Now that’s tough.


Maybe I don’t like them because this is the city that booed Santa Clause. Santa Freaking Clause. Of all mythical figures this guy is the king. All he wants to do is bring happiness to boys and girls all over the world and the Philly fans boo him. I guess I forgot that the grinch is green.

Maybe its because they cheered when Michael Irvin broke his neck in Veterans stadium. Look im no cowboy fan but to cheer someone when they are down on the field is as bad as it get’s let alone when he isn’t moving. Classless.

Or just maybe it’s the fact they have booed the man who has kept the franchise relevant for the last decade from the moment he was drafted. April 17, 1999. Paul Tagliabue takes the stage and announces, “With the second overall pick in the 1999 draft the Philadelphia Eagles select Donovan Mcnabb ..Quarterback. Syracuse.” With that a chorus of boos erupt from the Radio City Music Hall crowd. For Donovan Mcnabb it didn’t get much better. Philly fans ignored the fact that he took them to numerous NFC championship games and a super bowl. They ignored the fact that he owns every passing record in franchise history. No matter what Donovan Mcnabb did he could never win over the crowd, they wanted change, and on Easter 2010 they got it, Mcnabb was traded to the Washington Redskins and the Kevin Kolb era begins. So congratulations Philly fans you finally got rid of the man you didn’t want 11 years ago.

I hope you enjoy the yearly beating that the man you never wanted gives you. And to be honest it couldn’t happen to a better place. As Earl would say, “It’s called Karma.”

[StrayDawg]

I agree with your sentiment. I have a few good friends who are Philly fans, and most of them still live in Philly. I have talked to all of them, and none of them said it was a bad idea. They are either happy about it or "torn" and don't know what to think.

I think it's just plain stupid. Trading him within the division moves Philly down and moves Washington up. Moreover, even if he had been traded to another division, why do Eagles fans think this is an upgrade? Nothing against Kolb, but how has he proven himself? The Eagles offense has never been a great rushing attack, but they were pretty good because of Brian Westbook. They are a passing offense built around McNabb. Now, they have no Westbrook and no McNabb. Their offensive live is degraded, they have a completely unproven offensive backfield. One of McNabb's best traits was his ability to run away from the pass rush, and Kolb admitted in his press conference that he can't do that as well as McNabb. This whole thing is a recipe for disaster, but I agree with you that Philly fans are going to get what they deserve.

I say the Eagles go 8-8 at best this season, and the Redskins could have a 10 or 12 win season.

[Cal&Ken]

My husband is a die hard Redskin fan- he is very happy about the trade. Campbell was a bust and should have never been picked as a number 1 draft choice - they even traded up to get him. He may thrive in someone else's system, but has never been good for the Redskins. McNabb is certainly an upgrade for them. I read an article talking about how he refused to talk to any other teams that wanted him- the Bills and I can't remember who else. He threatened to retire and they let him win. I would have let him retire rather than hold me hostage over the trade. Clearly Phil. was the loser here, but did get a second round pick to help compensate. I think it was a bad trade, but I always like it when the Skins win (unless playing the Saints) - my house is a happier place on Sunday afternoons.

[CChandler]

Sure, I'll be the voice of contention.

I like this for Philadelphia, barring an utter disaster of a pick at 37 overall. By every account out of that joint, Kolb has been lights out in practice. Now, of course, its practice (practice, man!), but if you believe that your quarterback of the future is ready, then your goal should be to maximize the value of your current starter. With these three picks, the Eagles did that. If Kolb, a guy they drafted at the top of the second round, truly is ready, and everyone seems to think he is, then you have to go with it.

Trading him within the Division is pretty dumb, but the Skins have nothing at wideout. 3 solid-to-good RBs, but an old, garbage-ass offensive line and no exterior threat. They won't win enough games to contend. They'll draft a LT at 4 overall, start him, and DeMarcus, Usi, and company will absolutely hammer him all season.

So, because they got some pretty great capital for Donovon, Kolb is ready, and Washington will be in the tank this year regardless, I like this pick for Philadelphia.

[bluecrew]

Sure, I'll be the voice of contention.

I like this for Philadelphia, barring an utter disaster of a pick at 37 overall. By every account out of that joint, Kolb has been lights out in practice. Now, of course, its practice (practice, man!), but if you believe that your quarterback of the future is ready, then your goal should be to maximize the value of your current starter. With these three picks, the Eagles did that. If Kolb, a guy they drafted at the top of the second round, truly is ready, and everyone seems to think he is, then you have to go with it.

Trading him within the Division is pretty dumb, but the Skins have nothing at wideout. 3 solid-to-good RBs, but an old, garbage-ass offensive line and no exterior threat. They won't win enough games to contend. They'll draft a LT at 4 overall, start him, and DeMarcus, Usi, and company will absolutely hammer him all season.

So, because they got some pretty great capital for Donovon, Kolb is ready, and Washington will be in the tank this year regardless, I like this pick for Philadelphia.

Except that Mcnabb was good and never had WR's minus a year with TO and DJ. I'll go with Washington scalping Philly 2X and the eagles no better than 7-9. I look at the eagles roster and its Lesean Mccoy and Desean Jackson..And thats...about...it. Again Mcnabb and Westbrook the only reason the eagles have been relevant.

[FishingBack]

I swear Chandler has a spy chip located in my brain....or maybe it's the other way around?

I agree that it was a good move. Kolb is good.

Sure, I'll be the voice of contention.

I like this for Philadelphia, barring an utter disaster of a pick at 37 overall. By every account out of that joint, Kolb has been lights out in practice. Now, of course, its practice (practice, man!), but if you believe that your quarterback of the future is ready, then your goal should be to maximize the value of your current starter. With these three picks, the Eagles did that. If Kolb, a guy they drafted at the top of the second round, truly is ready, and everyone seems to think he is, then you have to go with it.

Trading him within the Division is pretty dumb, but the Skins have nothing at wideout. 3 solid-to-good RBs, but an old, garbage-ass offensive line and no exterior threat. They won't win enough games to contend. They'll draft a LT at 4 overall, start him, and DeMarcus, Usi, and company will absolutely hammer him all season.

So, because they got some pretty great capital for Donovon, Kolb is ready, and Washington will be in the tank this year regardless, I like this pick for Philadelphia.

[KDawg33]

It shows how desperate they were to trade him with Donavan, Vick, and Kevin contracts are up next year.

[kdk008]

A move definitely was going to and needed to be made, but as a Cowboy fan I'm very pleased.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

A move definitely was going to and needed to be made, but as a Cowboy fan I'm very pleased.

But you still have Romo as your QB and Jerry Jones as your HC so what difference will it make?

[Bigdog13]

But you still have Romo as your QB and Jerry Jones as your HC so what difference will it make?

At one point last year Romo had the highest career passer rating among active QB's. I don't know where he is now but he had a good year so I imagine he is at least top 5.

I think most Cowboy fans are very happy to have Romo as the QB. Do I think he is as good as Brees, Manning, and Brady? No. Is he very good? Yes. Most NFL experts would agree with what I just wrote and if you were impartial and not a Cowboy hater you would to. You are so blinded by hate for the Cowboys that your opinion on anything related to the Cowboys really can't be taken very seriously.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

I think most Cowboy fans are very happy to have Romo as the QB.

Tyler is loaded with cowboy fans and not a one that I know has any faith in Romo as their QB. A ton of them think he is the one holding them back. Well Romo and JJ that is.

[Bigdog13]

Tyler is loaded with cowboy fans and not a one that I know has any faith in Romo as their QB. A ton of them think he is the one holding them back. Well Romo and JJ that is.

...........Then they would be wrong.

[Bigdog13]

Now as far as this trade goes I think you have to look at it from each teams angle. I think it is good but not as great as people think for the Skins. McNabb IMO has always been a good but not great QB, who is getting old and has been injury prone. The Eagles have had a record over .500 when he is injured. He is an upgrade over Campbell but lets be serious its not like the Skins just signed Peyton Manning or something.

It is a good trade for the Eagles as well. Here is why: They weren't going to do jack squat this year anyways. Might as well get some picks and rebuild. I have been listening to ESPN Radio at lunch and in the morning the last few weeks and they keep reporting that the Eagles fans are remarkably calm about this one and are pretty much ready for the McNabb era to end. The reason they were comfortable trading him within the division is they are betting that by the time they are good again McNabb will pretty much be done. I mean its not like they were close to reaching a Super Bowl and McNabb is going to keep them from reaching it. As a matter of fact they were probably slowly moving further away from the Super Bowl rather than inching towards it.

This could go two ways for the Cowboys, when another division rival gets better it is always tough but on the flipside Jerry usually will try to make a big move to counter the division rivals so you never know. If this motivates Jerry to do something big it could end up helping the Cowboys. I am hoping he moves up in the draft to pick up Dez Bryant but we will see. I would also be very happy if wer could land a stud OL either through FA, Trade or the Draft.

I'm actually really interested to see if the Giants look like they did last year or the year before. There is a lot of talent on that team but they are VERY disfunctional.

[StrayDawg]

Now as far as this trade goes I think you have to look at it from each teams angle. I think it is good but not as great as people think for the Skins. McNabb IMO has always been a good but not great QB, who is getting old and has been injury prone. The Eagles have had a record over .500 when he is injured. He is an upgrade over Campbell but lets be serious its not like the Skins just signed Peyton Manning or something.

It is a good trade for the Eagles as well. Here is why: They weren't going to do jack squat this year anyways. Might as well get some picks and rebuild. I have been listening to ESPN Radio at lunch and in the morning the last few weeks and they keep reporting that the Eagles fans are remarkably calm about this one and are pretty much ready for the McNabb era to end. The reason they were comfortable trading him within the division is they are betting that by the time they are good again McNabb will pretty much be done. I mean its not like they were close to reaching a Super Bowl and McNabb is going to keep them from reaching it. As a matter of fact they were probably slowly moving further away from the Super Bowl rather than inching towards it.

This could go two ways for the Cowboys, when another division rival gets better it is always tough but on the flipside Jerry usually will try to make a big move to counter the division rivals so you never know. If this motivates Jerry to do something big it could end up helping the Cowboys. I am hoping he moves up in the draft to pick up Dez Bryant but we will see. I would also be very happy if wer could land a stud OL either through FA, Trade or the Draft.

I'm actually really interested to see if the Giants look like they did last year or the year before. There is a lot of talent on that team but they are VERY disfunctional.

BD13,

I see where you are coming from, but I disagree. I had this argument today with a friend who lives in Philly. He said that Donovan is old and injury prone. I agree that he is past his prime, but old is too strong a word. He is one year younger than Peyton Manning and one year older than Tom Brady, but no one thinks of them as headed for retirement. McNabb probably has several good years left in him. McNabb has been injured more than Brady or Manning, but that's because McNabb runs the ball, which the other two never do. Aside from the sports hernia a couple of years ago, he has been in pretty good shape. Doctors have said that the rib injury from last year is healded and not likely to recur.

The biggest factor that we haven't discussed here is Mike Shanahan, and I think that's huge because he is a fantastic coach. Really good coaches make the biggest changes during their first year or two. He will be looking to prove himself after being fired in Denver, and a good QB is the weapon he needed most. Now McNabb has something to prove too. Also, when discussing age, think about this: When Shanahan arrived in Denver, John Elway was two years older than McNabb is right now. Elway had also been banged up, but the two of them went on to win two Superbowls together.