Colby's Chances

[MoltonLava8]

I know that the coaching staff has stated that Cameron is back in the race to be the starting quarterback. However, I do still believe that its a two horse race. Any thoughts?

[FishingBack]

Based on information posted elsewhere, I'd agree

[DONW]

I know that the coaching staff has stated that Cameron is back in the race to be the starting quarterback. However, I do still believe that its a two horse race. Any thoughts?

I thought he played well enough in the scrimmage to be in the race.

[Geaux Dawgs]

Agreed.....what are the chances of the dreaded 2 QB system??? I think both play alot

[TechDynamic]

Did it seem like Colby's throwing motion was a little odd...like he had to wind up his whole body to release?

[techster47]

Colby looked pretty good, but still needs more seasoning. too raw right now

[qng001]

I know that the coaching staff has stated that Cameron is back in the race to be the starting quarterback. However, I do still believe that its a two horse race. Any thoughts?

Who are you???

[mildawg]

Did it seem like Colby's throwing motion was a little odd...like he had to wind up his whole body to release?

There were several mentions of that at practice last week. My observation is that Cameron does not put enough "air" under the ball on his deeper touch passes. The QBs do a drill where they set up a trash can in the back corner of the endzone, and two QBs at a time attempt to throw a "fade" pass into the trash can. Ensminger far and away was the most competent at this drill. Cameron routinely threw a very flat ball that never had a chance of dropping into the trash can. To me, it appears as though Colby "pushes" the ball from his shoulder, much like a shot-put throw, which causes the flat trajectory. It is a strange throwing motion comparatively speaking. But if the coaches are alright with it, who am I to critique?

On a related note, I still believe Ross could throw a serviceable deep ball if not for his footwork. I noticed that he throws a decent pass 20 yards and in -- plenty of zip and fairly accurate. But when he throws a deep pass, the ball flutters and dies in mid-flight, usually ending up about 5-10 yards short of its intended target. To me, it points to one thing -- his footwork. Watching him now for several years, Ross has always tended to overstride on his throws, which prevents the proper rotation of his hips and transference of power from his legs through his throw. It is not as important on shorter throws, as overstiding doesn't really affect the trajectory of the ball. But on the deeper throws when Ross needs to get the ball in the air, his wide stance is preventing him from getting the ball up at the right angle and getting all his power into the throw -- thus the dying ducks.

Personally, I'd tie a length of rope around his legs and force him to shorten his stride. Then, I'd place every QB right under the crossbar and have them throw 9-routes over the bar, forcing them to get the point of the ball up and get some air under their deep passes.

Just an observation--however right or wrong--I wanted to get off my chest.

[SixWings]

There were several mentions of that at practice last week. My observation is that Cameron does not put enough "air" under the ball on his deeper touch passes. The QBs do a drill where they set up a trash can in the back corner of the endzone, and two QBs at a time attempt to throw a "fade" pass into the trash can. Ensminger far and away was the most competent at this drill. Cameron routinely threw a very flat ball that never had a chance of dropping into the trash can. To me, it appears as though Colby "pushes" the ball from his shoulder, much like a shot-put throw, which causes the flat trajectory. It is a strange throwing motion comparatively speaking. But if the coaches are alright with it, who am I to critique?

On a related note, I still believe Ross could throw a serviceable deep ball if not for his footwork. I noticed that he throws a decent pass 20 yards and in -- plenty of zip and fairly accurate. But when he throws a deep pass, the ball flutters and dies in mid-flight, usually ending up about 5-10 yards short of its intended target. To me, it points to one thing -- his footwork. Watching him now for several years, Ross has always tended to overstride on his throws, which prevents the proper rotation of his hips and transference of power from his legs through his throw. It is not as important on shorter throws, as overstiding doesn't really affect the trajectory of the ball. But on the deeper throws when Ross needs to get the ball in the air, his wide stance is preventing him from getting the ball up at the right angle and getting all his power into the throw -- thus the dying ducks.

Personally, I'd tie a length of rope around his legs and force him to shorten his stride. Then, I'd place every QB right under the crossbar and have them throw 9-routes over the bar, forcing them to get the point of the ball up and get some air under their deep passes.

Just an observation--however right or wrong--I wanted to get off my chest.

nice. I would imagine that our new QB coach is at least competent enough to work on fundamentals (once he's not occupied installing an offense). It's a shame that we haven't had any real QB coaching the past few years.

[Rooster]

nice. I would imagine that our new QB coach is at least competent enough to work on fundamentals (once he's not occupied installing an offense). It's a shame that we haven't had any real QB coaching the past few years.

Rattay was our last great QB's coach

[FishingBack]

If our current crop of coaches can't coach up a QB then we'll never have a staff that can!

[87dawg]

Colby is only 19 and has 3 more yrs he will develop into a good qb and leader. By the time September gets here 1-2-3 could be reversed...it would no surprise me. Like Dykes said its going to be the one that works the hardest.

[olddog75]

Colby is only 19 and has 3 more yrs he will develop into a good qb and leader. By the time September gets here 1-2-3 could be reversed...it would no surprise me. Like Dykes said its going to be the one that works the hardest.

The QB that is the overall best in August will start, working hardest doesn't, by definition, mean best.

[87dawg]

The QB that is the overall best in August will start, working hardest doesn't, by definition, mean best.

Just quoted what Dykes said. AND if one of them doesnt work (misses practices, meetings, etc) and is the best, which may have been the case in previous yrs. ...he probably will not start.

[hambone29]

There were several mentions of that at practice last week. My observation is that Cameron does not put enough "air" under the ball on his deeper touch passes. The QBs do a drill where they set up a trash can in the back corner of the endzone, and two QBs at a time attempt to throw a "fade" pass into the trash can. Ensminger far and away was the most competent at this drill. Cameron routinely threw a very flat ball that never had a chance of dropping into the trash can. To me, it appears as though Colby "pushes" the ball from his shoulder, much like a shot-put throw, which causes the flat trajectory. It is a strange throwing motion comparatively speaking. But if the coaches are alright with it, who am I to critique?

On a related note, I still believe Ross could throw a serviceable deep ball if not for his footwork. I noticed that he throws a decent pass 20 yards and in -- plenty of zip and fairly accurate. But when he throws a deep pass, the ball flutters and dies in mid-flight, usually ending up about 5-10 yards short of its intended target. To me, it points to one thing -- his footwork. Watching him now for several years, Ross has always tended to overstride on his throws, which prevents the proper rotation of his hips and transference of power from his legs through his throw. It is not as important on shorter throws, as overstiding doesn't really affect the trajectory of the ball. But on the deeper throws when Ross needs to get the ball in the air, his wide stance is preventing him from getting the ball up at the right angle and getting all his power into the throw -- thus the dying ducks.

Personally, I'd tie a length of rope around his legs and force him to shorten his stride. Then, I'd place every QB right under the crossbar and have them throw 9-routes over the bar, forcing them to get the point of the ball up and get some air under their deep passes.

Just an observation--however right or wrong--I wanted to get off my chest.

Good observation. Overstriding makes it very hard to get on top of the ball which is why his ball floats instead of turning over. He has a low release as is, and overstriding makes it harder to overcome his release.
To get the most out of the crossbar drill you speak of, they would be better served throwing shorter routes as opposed to 9s. This really ensures getting on top of the ball and keeping the nose of the ball down. It is a very difficult, and sometimes frustrating, drill.