Jim wasn't the hurdle on this....Originally Posted by dchi72
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Jim wasn't the hurdle on this....
''Don't be a bad dagh..."
So you are saying there are hurdles outside of the Athletic Dept?
To me, there is no comparison! If you look at the scope of his career, Matt is better than Rattay, and possibly better than Bradshaw. We are comparing apples and oranges here since the two games are quite different, but from an overall standpoint, the arguement can be made that Dunigan had as good if not better of a career than TB.
TR has no arguement!
Played 14 years, 194 regular season games - 5 Grey Cups appearances, 2 Grey Cup Rings
Still holds the Pro Football record for most passing yards in a single game - 713!!!
Only QB in CFL history to lead five different teams to winning records
Rushed 850 times for 5,031 yds. and 77 TDs
3,057 completions on 5,476 attempts for 43,857 yds and 306 TDs
All CFL QB - 85, 88, 95
Western Allstar - 85, 88
Eastern Allstar - 93, 94
Southern Allstar - 95
Jeff Russell Memorial Trophy - 93
Tom Pate Memorial Trophy - 89
I know all about TB and what he did at Tech and the NFL. I also know about TR and what he did at Tech. But I don't know what he has done or did in the NFL.
Anyone want to comment on that?
It is total BS that he is not in the H of F at Tech and it needs to be corrected ASAP!
That's all folks! Thanks for reading!
DD03
Well Danny, thanks for coming on...... Why not stick around a while. We don't control the HOF, but we are putting in the nomination now. Should have been done a long time ago, but Tech was a little stubborn on some things. I think now is the time.
No need to compare stats. MD was awesome and we all know that, so you are pretty much preaching to the choir. Stick around!
I've nominated him in the past.
Tech has been blessed with some good QBs throughout our history. I think most of us could put together a Top 5 and the lists would be similiar, and we would agree that someone left off our list, but included on someone else's was a dern good QB too.
But, I can say this. If someone said I had to coach an all time Tech all-star team and had to take Dunigan as my QB....well, that would be just fine with me.
He should be in the Tech HoF. It's a shame we're even having to have this discussion.
I fully support Matt Dunigan being in the Tech HOF; however, let's recap Matt's results soley while a Tech QB. The fact is that Dunigan became viewed as "a great Tech QB" by Tech fans only during his senior season and afterwards as a professional CFL QB.
In 1981 I was surprised that Matt, Tech's starting QB, was widely known as "Gun-again Dunigan" and he was regularly BOOED BY TECH'S STUDENTS. If it were left up to Tech's fans (students & alumni), instead of coach Billy Brewer & staff, Matt Dunigan would have never seen the Joe Aillet turf for his senior season!
Matt's Tech career passing stats as a starter (his final 35 games per the media guide):
1980 Dunigan (Soph)- 149 completions in 313 attempts for 1,939 yards, 9 TDs/ 13 INTs. Team's record: 5-6 (no postseason play)
1981 Dunigan (Junior)- 153 completions in 313 attempts for 1,898 yards, 6 TDs/ 16 INTs. Team's record: 4-6-1 (no postseason play)
1982 Dunigan (Senior)- 222 completions in 413 attempts for 2,843 yards, 23 TDs/ 15 INTs. Team's record: 10-3 (including playoff results). Billy Brewer was then hired away to be Ole Miss' head coach.
Matt Dunigan's career stats- 550 completions in 1,103 attempts for 7,042 yards, 40 TDs/ 50 INTs. (1 postseason as a senior)
How does this compare with Tech's current starting QB?
Ross Jenkins' career stats- 226 completions in 469 attempts for 3,276 yards, 24 TDs/ 8 INTs. (1 bowl win as a sophomore, senior season is TBD)
That's my family member. I hope it happens.
That's what I'm talking about. That's why I said "Tech's second best QB ever." Rattay probably had a better college career (even better than Bradshaw), but his pro career can't hold a candle to this! Tell someone in Edmonton that Matt Dunigan is not in the La Tech HOF and they will think Tech fans are retarded. It's a bad reflection on our University. We really need to make this happen ASAP. I always assumed he was already in.
Thanks for the stats, I didn't realize they were that bad. No way he should be in before Rattay.
What are their records as starting Tech quaterbacks?
Well, then I guess that we have to decide whether the TECH HoF is based on the PRO career or the TECH career.
Personally I'll take Gitmo, Troy Edwards, and Touchdown Timmy way before Mr. Dunnigan (no offense).
I believe that if you DO get in a debate with a CFL fan, those numbers should be all that you need to say about why he's not in TECH's HoF, but CLEARLY deserves his CFL HoF status.
I'm a believer in "quid pro quo". Matt Dunnigan, Mike Green, Tim Rattay, where is your LTAC membership?
Somewhere, there should be some written guidelines showing what people need to do to qualify for HoF induction.
Personally, I think that you have to consider the person's entire body of work. Not just Tech and not just pro, but both. Also consider what he or she has done for the university as far as public perception. We have some members of the Tech Hall of Fame (benefactors) who never played sports at Tech, so it is only fair to consider things that happen off the field of play in Ruston.
Mike Green should be in not only because of the records that he holds and his pro career, but also because he was one of the first black men's basketball players at Louisiana Tech (just as Fred Dean was for football). That's pretty significant.
Dunnigan should be in even though he had a couple of iffy years at Tech. The guy is already a Hall of Famer, for goodness sake. Why not at his own Alma Mater? Bradshaw had several bad years at the beginning of his career in Pittsburgh, but nobody remembers that. They remember the 4 Superbowl wins, and the fact that he is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Cool Hand Clyde has a point too.
I didn't see Bradshaw play in college, but based on his college stats, he probably isn't deserving of the Tech HOF.
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