Sac St game 1

[mentechsters]

Dawgs need to come out and set the tone for the weekend by pounding them.

[BLUE collar]

Is it on video anywhere other than All-Access?

[DogsWin]

Bottom of the 8th...
1. Ford doubled,
2. Ewing grounded out,
3. Stubbs walked,
4. Alvis walked (bases loaded= pitcher change),
5. Terrasas base hit single (2 RBI) Tech 13 - Sac St 10,...
6. Roliard base hit (1 RBI + 1 run on error) Tech 15 - Sac St 10,
7. Threlkeld line drive single (RBI) Tech 16 - Sac St 10,
8. Williams single,
9. Dageford K'ed,
10. Ford line drive to center field (Tech up by a TD + extra point)
11. Drew Thomas, pinch-hitting for Ewing, flied out.
Tech 17 - Sac St 10 going to 9th inning.

[DogsWin]

Double play ends the game...

Final: Tech 17 - Sac St 11

[BLUE collar]

good win

[HoDo-Tech70]

It's always good to win, I just wish we could win within 3 hours when it's a night game. :icon_wink:

A couple of interesting game situations brought up questions about the rulebook. What does the rulebook say about the following plays?

1) Bases loaded, 2 outs, batter hits a roller to 1st baseman who doesn't field it cleanly but goes to his knees and manages to grab the ball in his throwing hand. He tags the base with his glove before the runner reaches first. The ball was in the 1st baseman's hand some 4 or 5 feet from the base when he reaches and touches 1st base with his glove. Is the batter out at first?

2) Runner on 1st with less than two outs. Batter hits a ground ball to the middle infield. A middle infielder has possession of the ball and steps on second for the force out. The runner (who is out) impedes the relay throw to first base by running into the middle infielder and the ball goes out of play behind first base. Do you: a) call interference/obstruction on the runner and the batter is out if in your judgement he would have been out at first, or if in your judgement the batter would have been safe would you b) award the batter second base, or c) call it a dead ball and keep the batter at first base.

[BLUE collar]

It's always good to win, I just wish we could win within 3 hours when it's a night game. :icon_wink:

A couple of interesting game situations brought up questions about the rulebook. What does the rulebook say about the following plays?

1) Bases loaded, 2 outs, batter hits a roller to 1st baseman who doesn't field it cleanly but goes to his knees and manages to grab the ball in his throwing hand. He tags the base with his glove before the runner reaches first. The ball was in the 1st baseman's hand some 4 or 5 feet from the base when he reaches and touches 1st base with his glove. Is the batter out at first?

2) Runner on 1st with less than two outs. Batter hits a ground ball to the middle infield. A middle infielder has possession of the ball and steps on second for the force out. The runner (who is out) impedes the relay throw to first base by running into the middle infielder and the ball goes out of play behind first base. Do you: a) call interference/obstruction on the runner and the batter is out if in your judgement he would have been out at first, or if in your judgement the batter would have been safe would you b) award the batter second base, or c) call it a dead ball and keep the batter at first base.

1) Batter\runner is out. Same as if a first baseman has ball in glove and steps on the base. On a force play it does not matter, however, when applying a tag it does. The ball would have to be in the fielder's glove when tagged with the glove or bare hand when tagged with bare hand.

2) d) by rule the batter is out , unless he were down the right field line before the interferrence takes place. If the batter has not touched first at the time of the interferrence both are out and the play is considered a double play, with no runs being allowed to score if it ends the inning.

[HoDo-Tech70]

1) Batter\runner is out. Same as if a first baseman has ball in glove and steps on the base. On a force play it does not matter, however, when applying a tag it does. The ball would have to be in the fielder's glove when tagged with the glove or bare hand when tagged with bare hand.

2) d) by rule the batter is out , unless he were down the right field line before the interferrence takes place. If the batter has not touched first at the time of the interferrence both are out and the play is considered a double play, with no runs being allowed to score if it ends the inning.

Thanks, I am getting rusty on the rule book and was too tired/lazy to look it up. The 1st base umpire made both rulings and he was 1 for 2. He got the 1st situation right but missed the call on situation #2. He awarded the Sacramento State batter 2nd base on the overthrow of 1st base that appeared to be caused by the Sac St runner's interference with the throw. His miss on call #2 did not change the outcome of the game.

[PawDawg]

Thanks, I am getting rusty on the rule book and was too tired/lazy to look it up. The 1st base umpire made both rulings and he was 1 for 2. He got the 1st situation right but missed the call on situation #2. He awarded the Sacramento State batter 2nd base on the overthrow of 1st base that appeared to be caused by the Sac St runner's interference with the throw. His miss on call #2 did not change the outcome of the game.

Are you sure he misinterpreted the rule or was the interference a judgement call? He could cover his tail by saying the runner coming into second did not interfere.

[HoDo-Tech70]

Are you sure he misinterpreted the rule or was the interference a judgement call? He could cover his tail by saying the runner coming into second did not interfere.

You are right, it was a "judgement" call. It must be that he ruled the runner did not interfere. In my view, the runner had time to get out of the way but did not. I saw it as interference so the batter should have been out at first.

On the first call, I forgot the rule and would have called the runner safe.

[BLUE collar]

You are right, it was a "judgement" call. It must be that he ruled the runner did not interfere. In my view, the runner had time to get out of the way but did not. I saw it as interference so the batter should have been out at first.

On the first call, I forgot the rule and would have called the runner safe.

Interferrence is only called if the fielder makes contact with the runner at second, if he didn't slide that is, or the ball hits the runner on the throw.

[HoDo-Tech70]

Interferrence is only called if the fielder makes contact with the runner at second, if he didn't slide that is, or the ball hits the runner on the throw.

Then it was clearly interference. The runner came in standing and ran into the infielder who on the base. On the throw the infielder's arm hit the runner causing the ball to sail over first base. The umpire allowed the batter/runner to advance to second rather than calling him out.

[DocMarvin362]

Then it was clearly interference. The runner came in standing and ran into the infielder who on the base. On the throw the infielder's arm hit the runner causing the ball to sail over first base. The umpire allowed the batter/runner to advance to second rather than calling him out.

That's not the first base umpires call. That umpire would have been getting in position to call the (usually) bang-bang play at first. Both the field umpire and the home plate umpire should have been able to see contact and made the appropriate call.

I can't give me opinion because I didn't see it live though

[BLUE collar]

That's not the first base umpires call. That umpire would have been getting in position to call the (usually) bang-bang play at first. Both the field umpire and the home plate umpire should have been able to see contact and made the appropriate call.

I can't give me opinion because I didn't see it live though

Sounds like they blew it

[HoDo-Tech70]

That's not the first base umpires call. That umpire would have been getting in position to call the (usually) bang-bang play at first. Both the field umpire and the home plate umpire should have been able to see contact and made the appropriate call.

I can't give me opinion because I didn't see it live though

My memory of the play returned. It WAS the field umpire who didn't call interference. It was the young umpire who was behind the plate for the 2nd game yesterday.

Sounds like they blew it

Yes, he did. However, I was very impressed with the young umpire's consistent strike zone during game 2 yesterday. During the 9 inning game there was very little disagreement with his calls. He appeared to have the most consistent strike zone of the 3 and none of them were bad.